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Old 11-07-2008, 06:30 AM
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Re: George W Bush is a Socialist

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McCain may have gotten in if he didn't put all his apples in one basket (Christan Right) !!! This Nation was built on many different walks of life, not just the Christians, this is why he lost big time! He also made the mistake of picking SP as his running mate, she to was for one small portion of the population who makes up this place. Many who were Republican crossed over due to the fact McCain and SP didn't represented the rest of the majority view points!

We as Christians may not like it, but the Founding Fathers of the United States set up the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution for all walks of life!
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Obama reach out to all walks, even if he may have not agree with it ! The office of President of the United States, ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." For all walks of life!

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This show a complete lack of understanding of the political enviroment in America. One of the most liberal states voted yet a second time to ban gay marrige, the problem wasn't that MCcain was depending on the "religious-right" the problem is McCain wasn't a conservative. He did not exite the conservative base, many folks particularly in states that are historically democrat in their presidentail elections, either didn't vote or voted for a third party. Republicans think that conservatives are stupid and simple vote for them because they have an R beside their name. The reality is when the Republicans put up a conservative candidate its an overwhelming victory. e.g. Reagan in 1984 winning 49 out of 50 states.

The turnout for this election was the same as 4 years ago "A downturn in the number and percentage of Republican voters going to the polls seemed to be the primary explanation for the lower than predicted turnout,”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...igher-than-04/
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Old 11-07-2008, 07:25 AM
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Re: George W Bush is a Socialist

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This show a complete lack of understanding of the political enviroment in America. One of the most liberal states voted yet a second time to ban gay marrige, the problem wasn't that MCcain was depending on the "religious-right" the problem is McCain wasn't a conservative. He did not exite the conservative base, many folks particularly in states that are historically democrat in their presidentail elections, either didn't vote or voted for a third party. Republicans think that conservatives are stupid and simple vote for them because they have an R beside their name. The reality is when the Republicans put up a conservative candidate its an overwhelming victory. e.g. Reagan in 1984 winning 49 out of 50 states.

The turnout for this election was the same as 4 years ago "A downturn in the number and percentage of Republican voters going to the polls seemed to be the primary explanation for the lower than predicted turnout,”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...igher-than-04/
Bingo. Very well said. So far, the best post in this thread.
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Old 11-07-2008, 07:52 AM
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Re: George W Bush is a Socialist

They just wanted a Demo, no matter what......
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:39 AM
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I think that if you delve into this just a tad deeper you will discern that George W. Bush is not a socialist - he's an oligarchist. Either way spells less happiness and freedom for the common man. (not speaking of the leeches) We're on a big-government kick right now. However, the inherent corruption in our system of patronage leads to dramatic crises such as that caused by the CRA, housing bubble, and existence of Fannie & Freddie.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:40 AM
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Can you explain how Bush was responsible for that? Up until recently the market has been a Bull Market...during his presidency. The recent "fiasco" have the dems to be blamed for it to a large degree.
You can play the blame game all you want, but it has nothing to do with what I said because I didn't say Bush had anything to do with it.

What I said was, clearly after 8 years if Bush were a socialist there would be no risk in my investments... yet there is.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:01 AM
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Can you explain how Bush was responsible for that? Up until recently the market has been a Bull Market...during his presidency. The recent "fiasco" have the dems to be blamed for it to a large degree.

Really?

Are you really going to tell me that for 6 of the last 8 years, NONE of Bush's "advisors" saw this coming? Are you telling me that it is perfectly excusable for these folks to have been sleep at the wheel during all of this?

The buck stops with the President.

His decisions, actions, and inactions have contributed LARGELY to this mess.

His = GWB, his administration and all who have had any kind of influence of the financial markets and situations of the last 8 years. Realistically, they are all connected to GWB, directly and indirectly.


So when the market picks up again, are you going to say, "WOW GWB was so wise, those Republicans back in 08 made the right decisions to get our country out of the mess?
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:06 AM
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well gwb is not a socialist, he is not to smart about all this though, but the mortgage melt down goes all the way back to the clinton years, and the dems blocking doing something about it, just the truth guys, dt
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Really?

Are you really going to tell me that for 6 of the last 8 years, NONE of Bush's "advisors" saw this coming? Are you telling me that it is perfectly excusable for these folks to have been sleep at the wheel during all of this?

The buck stops with the President.

His decisions, actions, and inactions have contributed LARGELY to this mess.

His = GWB, his administration and all who have had any kind of influence of the financial markets and situations of the last 8 years. Realistically, they are all connected to GWB, directly and indirectly.


So when the market picks up again, are you going to say, "WOW GWB was so wise, those Republicans back in 08 made the right decisions to get our country out of the mess?
You are correct that the Treasury Secretary and the Fed chairman did not act appropriately before, during, or after the financial meltdown. In that sense, the Bush administration rightly deserves blame.

The structures and systems that were put in place (by Carter and Clinton) or kept in place (by Barney Frank & Senate Democrats) that CAUSED all this should have been torn down or severely modified. We can also blame the Bush administration for not having the temerity to tackle this project - an initiative that would have been EXTREMELY unpopular if it had been attempted beforehand.

But generally speaking, it takes years for the effects of any given economic policy to become fully known.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:10 AM
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You are correct that the Treasury Secretary and the Fed chairman did not act appropriately before, during, or after the financial meltdown. In that sense, the Bush administration rightly deserves blame.

The structures and systems that were put in place (by Carter and Clinton) or kept in place (by Barney Frank & Senate Democrats) that CAUSED all this should have been torn down or severely modified. We can also blame the Bush administration for not having the temerity to tackle this project - an initiative that would have been EXTREMELY unpopular if it had been attempted beforehand.

But generally speaking, it takes years for the effects of any given economic policy to become fully known.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:16 AM
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I am for extracting information from terrorists by any means necessary. If you want to call that torture be my guest I dont care.

I dont think the Patriot act went too far.

George W. Bush spent like a drunken sailor.... Or it would be better to say he stood on the sidelines and let congress spend like drunken sailors and he said nothing. for 6 of his almost 8 years the spenders were republicans. (boo! hiss!)

This financial market bailout isnt socialism its stupid and its communsim. and I am mad about it.
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