Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For the same reason you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
Timmy, that pretty good for a 12 year old...
I think God really does not care! People are sheep, they are subject to Government because they allow it, don't fight for what is right, FREEDOM! Even Jesus stood against the government of that time!
I think God really does not care! People are sheep, they are subject to Government because they allow it, don't fight for what is right, FREEDOM! Even Jesus stood against the government of that time!
So, Paul didn't really mean what he wrote?
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I had posted this yesterday in another thread in response to a question?
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Originally Posted by StMark
The will of Man does overide the will of God does it not?
King Saul comes to mind. QUOTE:
Bro. Mark,
God always wanted to be Israel's King but they insisted on having a king like other nations. This displeased Samuel and he prayed to God. God told Samuel to harken to the people for they did not want God to reign over them. God told Samuel to tell the people what would happen to them.
This shall be the manner of the king that shall rule over you. He will take your sons and appoint them for himself. For his chariots, and to be his horseman, and some shall run before his chariots. And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties. and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots. And he shall take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers. He will take your fields, and your vineyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants. And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give them to his officers, and to his servants. And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.
He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants. And ye shall cry out in that day because, of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.
Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but, we will have a king over us; That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles. And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he rehearsed them in the ears of the LORD. And the LORD said to Samuel, Hearken unto their voice, and make them a king. And Samuel said unto the men of Israel, Go ye every man unto his city.
And although God gave them the desire of their hearts many times, He sent
leanness to their souls.
It it always good to seek God's Will. What He desires, as He knows what is best for His people. God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.
And God told the Prophet Samuel to anoint Saul, after Saul's disobedience, God took the anointing from Him. Samuel grieved and God did not like it. He told Samuel that Saul have not rejected him, but had rejected God.
When we do not seek and submit to God's will, we will be the loser!
I had posted this yesterday in another thread in response to a question?
Quote:
Originally Posted by StMark
The will of Man does overide the will of God does it not?
King Saul comes to mind. QUOTE:
Bro. Mark,
God always wanted to be Israel's King but they insisted on having a king like other nations. This displeased Samuel and he prayed to God. God told Samuel to harken to the people for they did not want God to reign over them. God told Samuel to tell the people what would happen to them.
This shall be the manner of the king that shall rule over you. He will take your sons and appoint them for himself. For his chariots, and to be his horseman, and some shall run before his chariots. And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties. and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots. And he shall take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers. He will take your fields, and your vineyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants. And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give them to his officers, and to his servants. And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.
He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants. And ye shall cry out in that day because, of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.
Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but, we will have a king over us; That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles. And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he rehearsed them in the ears of the LORD. And the LORD said to Samuel, Hearken unto their voice, and make them a king. And Samuel said unto the men of Israel, Go ye every man unto his city.
And although God gave them the desire of their hearts many times, He sent
leanness to their souls.
It it always good to seek God's Will. What He desires, as He knows what is best for His people. God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.
And God told the Prophet Samuel to anoint Saul, after Saul's disobedience, God took the anointing from Him. Samuel grieved and God did not like it. He told Samuel that Saul have not rejected him, but had rejected God.
When we do not seek and submit to God's will, we will be the loser!
Hugs,
Falla39
In light of Romans 13, it seems that God is putting Obama into office, and it doesn't seem to be a case of giving us what we ask for (by vote) even though He wants something else for us. "For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God." "For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer."
Some people were praying for Obama to win, some for McCain, some for God's will to be done. Which prayers (if any) affected God's actions (if any)?
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