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View Poll Results: Death Penalty - Where do you stand?
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10-14-2008, 09:02 PM
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty
Does this apply?
1 Peter 2:13-14
3 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
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10-14-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty
None of us would be saved without the death penalty.
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And someday master you. --Anon.
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10-14-2008, 09:07 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty
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Originally Posted by ronharvey
I am for the death penalty: God's word commanded it.
Sorry folks believe you are more moral or compassionate than God but the fact remains.
Since the abolition of the death sentence crime has risen in this country.
The states that have the penalty also have imposed laws that allow for prisoners to have extensive time to appeal.
It is meant as a deterrent but the lowering of the crimes has allowed more crime that does not fall under the death sentence e.g. rape.
Which is also a violation of God's word.
Ron
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Could you share any NT references that instruct us to do so?
We have OT references to stone adulterers but we don't stone adulterers.
There are many instructions to exact punishments in the OT that were not repeated in the NT and that we no longer fulfill.
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10-14-2008, 09:08 PM
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
None of us would be saved without the death penalty.
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None of us would be saved had not our deserved penalty of death taken for us by our Christ.
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10-14-2008, 09:11 PM
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Does this apply?
1 Peter 2:13-14
3 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
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It would apply.
But it would not affect whether we voted for or against said death penalty when given the chance.
We, as Christians, could work against the death penalty within the realm of the obedience these scriptures call for.
To obey the laws of the land does not keep us from trying to change those laws through proper channels.
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10-14-2008, 09:16 PM
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty
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Like sardines? 
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I didn't say "canning" but "caning" as in beating like some asian countries do.
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10-14-2008, 09:18 PM
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
It would apply.
But it would not affect whether we voted for or against said death penalty when given the chance.
We, as Christians, could work against the death penalty within the realm of the obedience these scriptures call for.
To obey the laws of the land does not keep us from trying to change those laws through proper channels.
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He said they wee for the punishment of evil doers and the main punish at the time that was written was the death penalty.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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10-14-2008, 10:40 PM
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Could you share any NT references that instruct us to do so?
We have OT references to stone adulterers but we don't stone adulterers.
There are many instructions to exact punishments in the OT that were not repeated in the NT and that we no longer fulfill.
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We're not a theocratic, nation-state like Israel was. GOD never called for the church to set up a political, national government. We have nothing in the NT that can draw up plans for this sort of system, punishments for crimes, a constitution or anything like that.
Israel had some of these things, and they were supposed to go by the book and stone certain criminals, but the NT doesn't have these things because GOD didn't intend for a Christian theocracy (and perhaps not for Christians to be involved in these forms of government).
-Bro. Alex
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10-14-2008, 11:31 PM
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Could you share any NT references that instruct us to do so?
We have OT references to stone adulterers but we don't stone adulterers.
There are many instructions to exact punishments in the OT that were not repeated in the NT and that we no longer fulfill.
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If we are using old testament law then we should be stoning rebelious children too.Duet. 21:18
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10-15-2008, 07:10 AM
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty
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Originally Posted by All4one
If we are using old testament law then we should be stoning rebelious children too.Duet. 21:18
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Exactly.
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