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Old 10-11-2008, 04:02 PM
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Re: Farrakhan on Obama:"The Messiah Is Speaking"

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DB and France,

He only joined a so called christian church when he got into politics
and only for the purpose. It was all a front.

In the book of Koran, you can lie to advance the muslim faith.

You 2 need to open your eyes
Please tell us...what is the evidence that he was a practicing Muslim as an adult?

What Mosque did he attend?

Maybe I'm just not as quick to believe lies and innuendo as you are?
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:08 PM
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Please tell us...what is the evidence that he was a practicing Muslim as an adult?

What Mosque did he attend?

Maybe I'm just not as quick to believe lies and innuendo as you are?


Of course he doesn't attend a mosque! that would be political suicide!
He and all Muslims know that to voted into office in America, you must
profess christianity.

Did you know that when muslims immigrate to the US, when they answer the Question as to what religion they are they say "christian" ???

Again, in Islam, you are permitted to lie if it advances the cause of
their faith.
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:11 PM
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Re: Farrakhan on Obama:"The Messiah Is Speaking"

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Please tell us...what is the evidence that he was a practicing Muslim as an adult?

What Mosque did he attend?

Maybe I'm just not as quick to believe lies and innuendo as you are?

What proof did we have prior to 9/11 that the highjackers were practicing Muslims ? What Mosque did they attend ?

I'm not saying I am quick to believe he is Muslim. But I am less quick to discount those who say he may be.
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:12 PM
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Of course he doesn't attend a mosque! that would be political suicide!
He and all Muslims know that to voted into office in America, you must
profess christianity.

Did you know that when muslims immigrate to the US, when they answer the Question as to what religion they are they say "christian" ???

Again, in Islam, you are permitted to lie if it advances the cause of
their faith.
Yes, I know he doesn't attend a mosque. That was not my question though.

Let's try this again sir...

What evidence is there that he has ever been a practicing Muslim as an adult, or ever attended a mosque as an adult ?

Give us evidence please.
Evidence is more convincing than innuendo.
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:19 PM
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Yes, I know he doesn't attend a mosque. That was not my question though.

Let's try this again sir...

What evidence is there that he has ever been a practicing Muslim as an adult, or ever attended a mosque as an adult ?

Give us evidence please.
Evidence is more convincing than innuendo.

You don't have to be a devout Muslim and a regular attendee
to a mosque to be a muslim.

Also, there is concrete evidence that he spent 6 months in the middle east
during his college years where he attended mosque and affirmed his muslim faith. If i find the article i will post the link
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:39 PM
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You don't have to be a devout Muslim and a regular attendee
to a mosque to be a muslim.
Yes, sir. I'm aware of that.... but you've provided no evidence at all that he was even a secular Muslim as an adult.

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Also, there is concrete evidence that he spent 6 months in the middle east during his college years where he attended mosque and affirmed his muslim faith. If i find the article i will post the link
Until you can show us this "concrete evidence" (which I doubt actually exists) then there's no real reason for us to accept your assertion as being true.
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Yes, many Muslims consider Obama to be Muslim because his Muslim was one. (..but somebody else "considering" you to be a Muslim doesn't make you one, if not a faith you believe in in your heart and/or mind )

And yes, many Muslims lie about their religion as a way of disguising who they are. (... but you cant prove that that applies to Obama, because you cant prove any link to Islam AFTER he returned to the US from Indonesia where he went to school, and where he may or may not have gone to mosques as a child)

But again... show us concrete evidence, and we'll have something solid to work with. Until then, we're just dealing in rumor and speculation here.
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Yes, sir. I'm aware of that.... but you've provided no evidence at all that he was even a secular Muslim as an adult.


Until you can show us this "concrete evidence" (which I doubt actually exists) then there's no real reason for us to accept your assertion as being true.
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Yes, many Muslims consider Obama to be Muslim because his Muslim was one. (..but somebody else "considering" you to be a Muslim doesn't make you one, if not a faith you believe in in your heart and/or mind )

And yes, many Muslims lie about their religion as a way of disguising who they are. (... but you cant prove that that applies to Obama, because you cant prove any link to Islam AFTER he returned to the US from Indonesia where he went to school, and where he may or may not have gone to mosques as a child)

But again... show us concrete evidence, and we'll have something solid to work with. Until then, we're just dealing in rumor and speculation here.

Read up on it. There are plenty of articles on worldnetdaily.com
and the book Abomonation points out many facts
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:47 PM
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Read up on it. There are plenty of articles on worldnetdaily.com
and the book Abomonation points out many facts
I think you have this all backward, Mark.

You made the assertion.
I asked for evidence.
You have no evidence, apparently, or you would have posted it by now.
But you said "there is concrete evidence that he spent 6 months in the middle east during his college years where he attended mosque and affirmed his muslim faith." ....you said if you find the link you'll post it.

We're still waiting for you to post this "concrete evidence".
I'm starting to doubt more and more that it actually exists.

So the onus is on you to find the evidence
to back up your assertion. It's not for me to go digging up articles to "read up on it".

You make the assertion... you provide the evidence. If you cant provide the evidence maybe you shouldn't make the assertion in the first place.
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Re: Farrakhan on Obama:"The Messiah Is Speaking"

I don't claim to be able to read people's minds and deepest intents as well as others. From my understanding, he was attending that church well before his political career. However, I will say that if he was going to fake being a Christian primarily in order to further his political career and hide his true Muslim identity....this would be the last Christian church he would have joined in order to accomplish it.
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I think you have this all backward, Mark.

You made the assertion.
I asked for evidence.
You have no evidence, apparently, or you would have posted it by now.
But you said "there is concrete evidence that he spent 6 months in the middle east during his college years where he attended mosque and affirmed his muslim faith." ....you said if you find the link you'll post it.

We're still waiting for you to post this "concrete evidence".
I'm starting to doubt more and more that it actually exists.

So the onus is on you to find the evidence
to back up your assertion. It's not for me to go digging up articles to "read up on it".

You make the assertion... you provide the evidence. If you cant provide the evidence maybe you shouldn't make the assertion in the first place.

Do your own research TR. I did mine and others have too.
I don't think you realize there is an agenda by the muslims to take
over America. They are already taking over Europe and Britain &
Their goal is to take over the world for Allah.

If you want to be blind to that and stand with Obama, fine.
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