Songwriter a Fraud - Page 3

mama bear · #21 08-21-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

I won't go so far as to say I wish he had cancer... But yes, incredible props with the O2 on his nose - in one video interview he even feigns weakness...

This is the Music Minister's version of Benny Hinn.

So very true.
I'd be afraid I would get cancer now.
I've learned a great lesson.
When I was younger, I would think I didn't feel well enough to go to church, so I'd call and say I wasn't feeling well......well.....I would ALWAYS end up sick! I was a quick learner.

Sherri · #22 08-21-2008, 08:58 AM

We do this song at church. I'm sorry to find out the way it came about, but it is an anointed song and we love it.

steve p · #23 08-21-2008, 09:05 AM

This songwriter, Todd Bentley, and the likes there of demonstrate one thing; our faith, trust, and hope is built on nothing but Jesus. No church, no organization, no denomination, no pastor, no worship leader, no prophet, etc.
"My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness"
I pray for those who for whatever reason felt the need to mislead people, whether they are innocent or guilty. It is not my place to judge. God will sort all that out. I am saddened if people are mislead by these people or by ME! Hence, we must always encourage others to trust the ONE who is trustworthy!
Blessings to all!

Hoovie · #24 08-21-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by steve p

This songwriter, Todd Bentley, and the likes there of demonstrate one thing; our faith, trust, and hope is built on nothing but Jesus. No church, no organization, no denomination, no pastor, no worship leader, no prophet, etc.
"My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness"
I pray for those who for whatever reason felt the need to mislead people, whether they are innocent or guilty. It is not my place to judge. God will sort all that out. I am saddened if people are mislead by these people or by ME! Hence, we must always encourage others to trust the ONE who is trustworthy!
Blessings to all!

Well said!

COOPER · #25 08-21-2008, 09:31 AM

Oh good grief!

Jack Shephard · #26 08-21-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by South of I 90

This song had over 300,000 hits on Youtube. Also with him being the writer, and the number of CD's Hillsong has sold, he has already made many $ from royalties.

It will be interesting to see how Hillsong and Integrity Music handles this issue. Will they re-issue the cd and DVD without the song.

The DVD includes his testimony and behind the scenes footage of him dealing with the "cancer".

The song was rapidly becoming an anthem for deliverence and healing in churches around the world.

I wouldn't think that they would re-issue the disc at all. The song is what ministers not the person that does sing the song. It is a great shame about this, however it is still a great song. I played it for my wife who is disabled physically and it really touched her. I say keep the song going get a legal injunction that stops the payment of profits to him and his family because of fraud and let the song speak for its self. Remember Kirk Franklin wrote 'Now Behold the Lamb' one of the greatest songs ever written, IMO, when he was addicted to porn. Thank God he is delievered but let the song speak on its own.

steve p · #27 08-21-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I wouldn't think that they would re-issue the disc at all. The song is what ministers not the person that does sing the song. It is a great shame about this, however it is still a great song. I played it for my wife who is disabled physically and it really touched her. I say keep the song going get a legal injunction that stops the payment of profits to him and his family because of fraud and let the song speak for its self. Remember Kirk Franklin wrote 'Now Behold the Lamb' one of the greatest songs ever written, IMO, when he was addicted to porn. Thank God he is delievered but let the song speak on its own.

amen and amen

triumphant1 · #28 08-21-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I wouldn't think that they would re-issue the disc at all. The song is what ministers not the person that does sing the song. It is a great shame about this, however it is still a great song. I played it for my wife who is disabled physically and it really touched her. I say keep the song going get a legal injunction that stops the payment of profits to him and his family because of fraud and let the song speak for its self. Remember Kirk Franklin wrote 'Now Behold the Lamb' one of the greatest songs ever written, IMO, when he was addicted to porn. Thank God he is delievered but let the song speak on its own.

And Hank Williams wrote "I Saw the Light"...a beloved hymn in many churches...while hopelessly addicted to drugs and alcohol and singing in beer joints and honkytonks....

Doesn't make the life or the deception right...but it is possible for a great inspirational song to be written by a scoundrel...the song could even be anointed by God too...

If that song's message is true...then sing on...truth is still truth! Our God is the Healer!!!!!

South of I 90 · #29 08-21-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I wouldn't think that they would re-issue the disc at all. The song is what ministers not the person that does sing the song. It is a great shame about this, however it is still a great song. I played it for my wife who is disabled physically and it really touched her. I say keep the song going get a legal injunction that stops the payment of profits to him and his family because of fraud and let the song speak for its self. Remember Kirk Franklin wrote 'Now Behold the Lamb' one of the greatest songs ever written, IMO, when he was addicted to porn. Thank God he is delievered but let the song speak on its own.

Maybe not re-issue the cd , but the dvd is another issue. I would think Hillsong and Integrity would not want the image of him singing with O2 going in his nose plus an approximate 9 minute bonus coverage of his "disease" to continue to be duplicated and distributed.

I just watched the song and the testimony again, and this sickens me!

I don't think the Kirk Franklin analogy applies to this scenario.

Sandra · #30 08-21-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by South of I 90

Maybe not re-issue the cd , but the dvd is another issue. I would think Hillsong and Integrity would not want the image of him singing with O2 going in his nose plus an approximate 9 minute bonus coverage of his "disease" to continue to be duplicated and distributed.

I just watched the song and the testimony again, and this sickens me!

I don't think the Kirk Franklin analogy applies to this scenario.

I agree, he never lied about his addiction. The Crabb family sings all the songs their father wrote, he has an addiction with alcohol.