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Re: John Edwards admits he lied
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While I think his lies about this disqualifies Edwards from public office due to betrayal of the public trust; I think we should remember that he who is without sin should cast the first stone. After all....McCain's first wife of 14 years was faithful to him while he was away in Vietnam. When he came home he had multiple affairs and finally abandoned his family to marry the last floosey he was seeing. That's who he's married to right now.
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McCain had a good reason though. That last "floosey" he was seeing that he married is worth somewhere around $100 million dollars!!!!!!!! 
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08-08-2008, 05:01 PM
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Re: John Edwards admits he lied
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Oh...and you conveniently dodged the point I made.  |
I "conveniently dodged" nothing.
But yes, I ignored the point you made, because it is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Somebody else might wish to argue with you about this, but I don't.
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08-08-2008, 05:02 PM
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Re: John Edwards admits he lied
I think I heard it once said that infedelity is the most unoriginal of sins. The American people seem to see men who struggle in this area as being human. It's no surprise to most when a man is revealed as having a weakness in this area. What I think will hurt him politically will be that he lied so vehemently about it while it was going on. Had he come out about it after having never denied it...well...people are forigiving. Lying about it makes it far worse. Also...he's wife has a terminal illness. I think most will see him as being absolutely HEARTLESS for doing this while his wife is dying (that might be why he included that she was in remission like it was somehow better). Those two things combined could destroy his career.
But here's something else that's bothering me about this....Russia is invading another country with bombers and tanks as we speak....bodies lay lifeless in the streets....and we're fixiated on Edwards and his zipper.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...tia/index.html
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08-08-2008, 05:03 PM
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Re: John Edwards admits he lied
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McCain had a good reason though. That last "floosey" he was seeing that he married is worth somewhere around $100 million dollars!!!!!!!! |
DING DING DING
Show him what he won Bob!!!!!
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08-08-2008, 05:04 PM
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Re: John Edwards admits he lied
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I "conveniently dodged" nothing.
But yes, I ignored the point you made, because it is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Somebody else might wish to argue with you about this, but I don't.
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Doged, ignored, "fled from"....those are all sematics.
Point is...you wouldn't dare not face the point I made.
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08-08-2008, 05:07 PM
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Re: John Edwards admits he lied
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DING DING DING
Show him what he won Bob!!!!!
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You also have ignored that McCain did all of that as a relatively young man who had just undegone over 5 years of torture in a Vietnamese prisoner of war camp.
No excuse but there were circumstances and he was psychologically changed from that experience. It took him some time to get his footing when he got back home.
Despite McCains behaviour those many years ago under those circumstances and despite the fact I have always not liked him he is still 100 times better than Barak Obama as a President.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-08-2008, 05:07 PM
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Re: John Edwards admits he lied
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Doged, ignored, "fled from"....those are all sematics.
Point is...you wouldn't dare not face the point I made. |
Take a hint, he's trying in a nice way to tell you to not take this thread off track like you have so many others. Just drop it or take it back to the election section and start another thread.
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08-08-2008, 05:11 PM
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Re: John Edwards admits he lied
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Take a hint, he's trying in a nice way to tell you to not take this thread off track like you have so many others. Just drop it or take it back to the election section and start another thread.
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We're talking about politicians and adultery right? Edwards is still the focus. But point is .... Edwards is no worse than the others...namely the Republian nominee.
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08-08-2008, 05:17 PM
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Re: John Edwards admits he lied
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You also have ignored that McCain did all of that as a relatively young man who had just undegone over 5 years of torture in a Vietnamese prisoner of war camp.
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I know POWs who were faithful to their wives. Some realize that they wouldn't have made it without their wife's faithful prayers.
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No excuse but there were circumstances and he was psychologically changed from that experience. It took him some time to get his footing when he got back home.
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Yes...I agree...McCain may very well have pyschological issues. I'm not convinced he ever really got "his footing".
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Despite McCains behaviour those many years ago under those circumstances and despite the fact I have always not liked him he is still 100 times better than Barak Obama as a President.
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One could argue that the stress of Edward's wife's condition and perhaps her inability to meet his needs were circumstances to consider in his case. I don't buy it though. I know men who's wives are sick and they're still faithful.
I disagree. I think McCain's policies will cause significant damage to this country. But hey...opinions are just opinions.
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08-08-2008, 07:08 PM
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John Edwards admits he lied
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Don't they all???? 
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