Re: Bush OK's Execution of Army Death Row Prisoner
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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace
OK Timmy... Let me clarify your position... You say that you doubt that God would send the vast majority of His creation to hell, so do you believe that the vast majority of His creation will be saved and in Heaven? If so then, who will be in hell and how did they wind up there? Please clarify...
I don't even know if there is life after death. But if there is, it's gotta be a very different reality than the one alleged by the Bible.
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Re: Bush OK's Execution of Army Death Row Prisoner
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Originally Posted by Timmy
I don't even know if there is life after death. But if there is, it's gotta be a very different reality than the one alleged by the Bible.
Timmy, in all sincerity and in the love of Christ, I'm not even going to argue with you on this, because it's very obvious that you've already probably heard nearly every argument that I could offer, however I am going to pray for you and I do not say that in a holier than thou, self-righteous tone, but I speak those words in love and concern for your eternal soul.
There is no doubt in my mind that the Bible is the Word of God and what it says is true. Regardless of what I choose to "believe", whether it's the Bible or something contrary to the Bible, it will not change the truth of the Bible. Whether I believe in Hell or life after death or not, it is not going to change the truth that there is.
Please know, that even though I don't know you, my heart is burdened for you and I am sincerely praying for you.
Re: Bush OK's Execution of Army Death Row Prisoner
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Fine. But do you have an opinion on whether it's too severe or not? It's OK to have an opinion, isn't it?
Yes I have one.
we protect innocent blood (OT commant that you find in the NT)
killing a killer is the only way to prevent a killer from killing again. period. One who is blood guilty forfits his own blood. (the life is in the blood according to the NT)
While that is part of Gods law for mankind, you can say it is mans law.
What God chooses to do AS GOD, as it relates to His creation, is not something I have (or have a right to) an opinion on.
hows that??
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Re: Bush OK's Execution of Army Death Row Prisoner
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Originally Posted by CC1
I hope that he became a Christian while in prison and will make it to heaven. God will know if he sincerely repented or not.
I firmly believe that people who have committed crimes and then become Christians should still pay the price and serve the time or sentance, in this case death.
Years ago when some of the major Evangelical figures were trying to get a woman on Death Row in Texas off from her death penalty I opposed them.
I am glad she changed her life and came to God but she still has to pay the price for her crime. The good news is that if she r eally did become a Christian then she just made it to heaven before us.
clearing that picture.... she was an AX MURDERER.
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Re: Bush OK's Execution of Army Death Row Prisoner
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Originally Posted by Timmy
My take, of course, is very different. I have no problem saying yes, eternal torment is too severe, no matter what you may have done, or may have believed, or not believed. And I seriously doubt that God will inflict such a punishment on the vast majority of his creation.
Tell that to the folks who died when he sent the great flood and only Noah and those on the Ark survived.
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Re: Bush OK's Execution of Army Death Row Prisoner
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Originally Posted by CC1
Tell that to the folks who died when he sent the great flood and only Noah and those on the Ark survived.
Now there's a good point. And tell the Egyptian families that lost their firstborn during the night. Or the young Midianite girls whose mothers, fathers, and brothers were slaughtered by God's orders, then became spoils of war.
Very good point.
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Re: Bush OK's Execution of Army Death Row Prisoner
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Now there's a good point. And tell the Egyptian families that lost their firstborn during the night. Or the young Midianite girls whose mothers, fathers, and brothers were slaughtered by God's orders, then became spoils of war.
Very good point.
Or how about the hundreds of thousands of Africans who have starved to death. Some caught in wars that force them from their homes. Others hacked to death.
Why did God allow it? Why is God full of judgement? What are his flashpoints that cause him to smite?
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