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07-09-2008, 07:41 PM
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Re: Who then can be lost?
Judgement is the LORD's! We are to seek out OUR OWN salvation with fear and trembling. However, it is not based on works. It is based on faith in Jesus Christ that produces a Christ like life.
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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07-09-2008, 07:45 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Who then can be lost?
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Originally Posted by bkstokes
Judgement is the LORD's! We are to seek out OUR OWN salvation with fear and trembling. However, it is not based on works. It is based on faith in Jesus Christ that produces a Christ like life.
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The way I read the Bible, our faith leads us to good works. From what I have gathered from others' posts around here, they have it backwards. Their works lead them to their faith.
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07-09-2008, 07:59 PM
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Re: Who then can be lost?
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Jesus after teaching was asked "Who then can be saved." Mt.19:25 But on AFF then question is who can be lost. Baptism not essential, tongues a maybe, suck cigarettes and have the HGB, church attendance optional, no tithe paying, pastor is an abomination. Nothing is essential and anything is okay. It is impossible to be lost.
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Those who have not repented of their sins and accepted Christ as their Lord and saviour will be lost.
The Bible says there is only one way and that is through Christ.
All pathways do NOT lead to heaven.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-09-2008, 07:59 PM
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Jesus is the Christ
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Re: Who then can be lost?
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Originally Posted by Rico
The way I read the Bible, our faith leads us to good works. From what I have gathered from others' posts around here, they have it backwards. Their works lead them to their faith.
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I believe that this happens when people focus on the outside more than the heart. Paul writes about this in Col 3.
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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07-09-2008, 08:02 PM
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Re: Who then can be lost?
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Jesus after teaching was asked "Who then can be saved." Mt.19:25 But on AFF then question is who can be lost. Baptism not essential, tongues a maybe, suck cigarettes and have the HGB, church attendance optional, no tithe paying, pastor is an abomination. Nothing is essential and anything is okay. It is impossible to be lost.
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Baptism is essential for every believer.
Tongues are a normal part of the believer's experience.
Cigarettes and gluttony are vices that grace leaves behind.
Forsaking the assembling is a sure way to lose your way.
The sacred tenth is God's plan for blessing.
Pastor's are an abomination to Egyptians and goats.
The Law of the Lord is perfect and the wise walk in all its ways.
It is possible to be lost. If you pursue salvation by works after you've been justified by faith in Christ, you will fall from grace and be lost.
If every issue of Christian discipleship is Heaven or Hell in its consequence, what is the purpose of the Judgment Seat of Christ.
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07-09-2008, 08:26 PM
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Re: Who then can be lost?
The love of many shall wax cold. Without love, they will be lost.
There will be those who do not love the truth. These delusional folks, the Bible says, will be lost.
There will be those who claim the name of Jesus Christ and will still be lost.
So on the contrary, there will be those who will be lost. I don't believe like I used to believe, but I still do believe. Being aware of the above Biblical assertions and my own life issues, I pray for God's mercy.
I am convinced it will by His GRACE only that I will obtain everlasting life.
At this point, I realize that without His GRACE, I don't stand a chance in Heaven.
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07-09-2008, 09:24 PM
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Re: Who then can be lost?
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If every issue of Christian discipleship is Heaven or Hell in its consequence, what is the purpose of the Judgment Seat of Christ.
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Would you elaborate on this a little, please?
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His banner over me is LOVE....  My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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07-09-2008, 09:56 PM
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Re: Who then can be lost?
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Jesus after teaching was asked "Who then can be saved." Mt.19:25 But on AFF then question is who can be lost. Baptism not essential, tongues a maybe, suck cigarettes and have the HGB, church attendance optional, no tithe paying, pastor is an abomination. Nothing is essential and anything is okay. It is impossible to be lost.
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Who then can be lost? Our Lord said, "Many." I think this verse means many more will be lost than saved. Even Carlton and his damnable doctrine will deceive many all the way to hell. Some think they can steal a horse and ride it to heaven.
"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:" (Matt. 7:13).
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07-09-2008, 10:03 PM
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Re: Who then can be lost?
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Jesus after teaching was asked "Who then can be saved." Mt.19:25 But on AFF then question is who can be lost. Baptism not essential, tongues a maybe, suck cigarettes and have the HGB, church attendance optional, no tithe paying, pastor is an abomination. Nothing is essential and anything is okay. It is impossible to be lost.
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It appears most of the world is lost...
Everyone that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-09-2008, 10:18 PM
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Christmas 2009
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Re: Who then can be lost?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
It appears most of the world is lost...
Everyone that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
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Amen!
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