For Lack of Scripture

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Is that too much to ask?

Not at all. We may disagree on what certain scriptures mean, but the moment either (any) of us steps outside of scripture to build a doctrine it becomes a doctrine of men.

[Brad Murphy]

What if 1 person thinks something is in the bible and 9 more people think it isn't? Who is right?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Not at all. We may disagree on what certain scriptures mean, but the moment either (any) of us steps outside of scripture to build a doctrine it becomes a doctrine of men.

Agreed ... at stake w/ defending this doctrine is the infallibility of the Word of God .... as fundamental and core as it gets.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Ron

I think it is all a tempest in a tea pot myself.
And there is divine flesh, & Pastoral dictatorship where every decision is vetted by the Pastor.
It is happening and will probably continue to happen.

I don't get worked up about it.
There are enough battles to fight, then to simply self destruct as a movement.

so we should not address false doctrine? We should let them sit and grow within our own movement?

These false doctrines can grow and take over our movement. That is the point. If we allow false doctrines to grow we are on a slippery slope, especially when the false doctrines are not even relying on scripture like Jekyll here tried to argue...eventually we will have a mess of people claiming new revelation not from the word like the various charismatic groups did with holy laughter and the other stuff that just made a big mess

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Can you see the forest through the trees?

Do you have an answer for the events listed above or do you wish to pontificate and assume as to why I am posting this?

Where in the world do you see that I am saying that we don't need the Bible? Who brought up hair?

On the other hand, I marvel at the faith of the New Testament churches who, having not necessarily seen or even heard of Jesus, experienced salvation and revival previous to the writings of Paul and not having the four gospels spread abroad.

We have a nice ready made book of scripture that people choose to deny, twist, take out of context, and use to their own devices. That goes for anyone, not defending nor discounting specific individuals. I was posting about a phenomenon where people have decided that what another individual said was the word of God. How did those, without definitive scripture, discern what was the word of God and what wasn't? I know how, but how did these people live in their everyday human lives that allowed them to be sensitive and obey the voice of God from another individual?

As far as hair goes, I have seen the same arguments for three years. Those who deny what Paul was saying in Corinthians will continue to deny, and those who espouse will continue to espouse.

I see the forest and I have an answer.

You believe new doctrines can be made by special personal revelation. The bible is not your sole rule of faith. You are on dangerous ground. You have joined the ranks of the RCC, David Koresh, Jim Jones and others

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Thank you.

But previous to scripture, how did people decide that what someone else said, was the Word of God?

We are not previous to scripture anymore. We have scripture. Use it for doctrine. Anything you find as doctrine not in the word is not of God

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

In our day.......

No scripture, not doctrine.

Amen!

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Agreed ... at stake w/ defending this doctrine is the infallibility of the Word of God .... as fundamental and core as it gets.

Just so I am not misunderstood, while I believe the uncut hair doctrine is the best answer on the verses in Cor, I do not for one moment believe that it gives a woman "special powers" with God, and to me the teaching of such is one that can open doors to witchcraft.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Just so I am not misunderstood, while I believe the uncut hair doctrine is the best answer on the verses in Cor, I do not for one moment believe that it gives a woman "special powers" with God, and to me the teaching of such is one that can open doors to witchcraft.

I've already gleaned this from your postings ... I think we both agree that 1 Cor 11:10 has been isolated and seriously distorted and has to be substantiated using occult references and beliefs that spiritualize hair.

[Nahum]

Wow! Jekyll's post is downright fruity.

This type of theology is what leads to serious doctrinal errors.

There is no such thing as extrabiblical revelation.