I understand what you are saying. I've been out of the UPC for a couple of years now but still believe they do teach some good things. Yes, it does need more accountability. I guess you are right. Holy accountability batman!
I really appreciate you taking the post in the spirit that I meant it. Glad we are on the same page!
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"Holy MagicHair Batman!!!"
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------------------------- Purpose of Holy Magic Hair Blog: Heretical Doctrine
"For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels." - 1 Corinthians 11:10
For years, some Christians, predominantly conservative Baptists, Methodists and Pentecostals, have asserted that the Bible teaches that a woman should not cut her hair. Most born-again Christians believe to the contrary. This debate is based on a passage in 1 Corinthians 11. There are compelling and convincing interpretations on both sides of this issue.
In recent years,however, a dangerous heretical doctrine has emerged claiming that an added reason why a woman's hair should not be cut is because it gives her power with angels citing 1 Corinthians 11:10. Proponents teach that a supernatural power and authority is bestowed by her obedience in not cutting her hair. Some claim this directly results in angelic protection, miracles,healings, special revelation, God's favor and blessing in their loves ... and even can affect one's salvation. Sadly, occult writings are offered up as substantiation for this paradigm.
This blog is an effort to uncover the untruths of this dangerous heretical doctrine that replaces Jesus and the power of God's sovereign Spirit with hair and legalism. We seek only to warn the Body of Christ of this teaching and not to undermine God's call on the lives of those who teach or believe this doctrine. Believers on both sides of the hair issue stand against this extrabiblical heresy.
We also hope to share studies on both sides of the hair issue for our readers. ----------------------------------------------------------
We invite you to read the blog articles that are forthcoming. You will be able to comment about the blogs. These comments will be heavily moderated.
We are also actively seeking bloggers who are willing to donate the talents and time to writing articles on this issue.
Bloggers must commit to not personally attacking the teachers and believers of this doctrine ... but rather help uncover the errors of this doctrine.
Articles should share biblical principles and personal insights about this doctrine in question and the hair issue in general --- by sharing the truth in love.
If you are interested in becoming a blogger for this effort please PM me.
Thank you.
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I know one thing....it means "Because of the angels" and "power with angels" means "power with angels" which you will never EVER find in the bible. Nor will one find the laying on of hair for the healing of the sick
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I posted this already in the other thread
This verse is always taken out of context when they use it. The context is about man being the head of woman. And for this reason she is to have a sign of authority (submission) on her head. The reference to the angels may refer to the six winged angels that cover their face with their wings in the presence of God...it was a sign.
1Co 11:7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man.
1Co 11:8 For man was not made from woman, but woman from man.
1Co 11:9 Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.
1Co 11:10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.
In any case I have yet to see anyone tell logically why "because of the angels" means instead "because she has not cut her hair she has special powers and protections from angels"
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Id be happy as a UPCer to debate any OP in the UPC or out over this doctrine of women having supernatural power in their hair and over angels because they did not cut it
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Id be happy as a UPCer to debate any OP in the UPC or out over this doctrine of women having supernatural power in their hair and over angels because they did not cut it
Im with brother Epley on this point. He says it's Hairacy.
Brother E and I dont agree on cut/uncut.
I believe it means long.
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Women should be covered/veiled "because of the angels (messengers/elders/pastors see Rev. 2:1, 8 etc.)" The angels were God's messengers to those specific congregations listed in chapters 2 and 3 of Revelation. At the time Paul wrote the letter(s) which became our book of 1 Cor. it was considered immodest for a woman to appear in public without a veil. Paul was telling the ladies in the Corinthian assembly to follow current customs of decency and wear a veil when in public. Being in a meeting where there was preaching, teaching, worship, and exercise of the gifts of the Spirit would be considered being in public and the ladies were to wear a veil if they were praying or prophesying. Also at that time, part of heathen worship would be men donning women's clothes and wearing their hair like a woman or women shaving their heads or wearing their hair in the shorter styles usually worn by men. This was also accompanied by acting as the opposite sex in orgies or homosexuality. Paul appealed to them by saying that even the natural world at that time had differences in the hair styles of men and women and they should conform to those styles.
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