Where do you divide fellowship?

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

TRFrance.. I am trying to show the hypocrisy of people........ I asked in the beginning how many consider ones understanding of Genesis a point of "dividing fellowship" everyone said it was not something to divide fellowship over...

then I simply pointed out.. that Original Sin or Serpent Seed is ones understanding of Geneisis, totally non essential to salvation.. and yet proving that by everyones admission it should not divide fellowship... and yet I am trying to show that indeed IT DOES

sadly so.. by the very people who when answering the question,.,. never dreamed they would divide fellowship over a non essential

Well, I guess to many if not most believers, the serpent seed doctrine seems to imply that some people walking around are the Devil's seed... and most of us find such an idea to be not just biblically unfounded, but also just downright repugnant.

Keep in mind that various church groups have used different variations of the "serpent seed doctrine" to teach white supremacy... that the black man is cursed... and a variety of other racist doctrines. As a matter of fact, some church groups still do to this very day!

So, is it fair to paint with a broad brush or in the Spirit of Christ... ask your brother to define his position and if he hold no such position,, repent for presuming and judging before the time?

[TRFrance]

I'm not accusing you of anything here.

I'm simply pointing out that over the years and centuries, the serpent seed doctrine has been a "gateway doctrine" which often has given way to other errors and heresies.

If "Serpent Seed" causes one to deny

The God of heaven,,, Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved...... then call it Heresy.. otherwise its not Heresy... its disagreement

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

If "Serpent Seed" causes one to deny

The God of heaven,,, Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved...... then call it Heresy.. otherwise its not Heresy... its disagreement

Well, we both know, doc... that heresy is in the eye of the beholder.

TRFran, finally we agree!

Of course you understand the mainsteam Christian world would call you a heretic for not embracing the Apostles Creed....... it really doesn't feel good to be called a heretic simply because people refuse to at least see your reasoning

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

TRFran, finally we agree!

Of course you understand the mainsteam Christian world would call you a heretic for not embracing the Apostles Creed....... it really doesn't feel good to be called a heretic simply because people refuse to at least see your reasoning

Indeed we can both agree on that point.

but as to your other point...."feeling good" is a non-issue. Jesus was called all manner of names wasn't he? so who are we to think we wont be called "heretic", or worse?

If nobody ever called me a name for what I believed, I'd have to seriously wonder if I was truly in Christ.

perhaps now you understand my mindset..... you good folks here have called me everything but brother.. all over things that most have no idea what their talking about,, the only know "hearsay" and rumors..... and will speak on those things

[TRFrance]

Well, make no mistake Vaughn...

As much as I've made it a point to be respectful toward you personally, I still consider your doctrine to be aberrant and unscriptural. I'm just not prepared to say it is ultimately a salvational issue.

I''ll let God sort that out in His own way in His own time.

TRFranc... do you feel that is someone is POST TRIB they are a heretic?

Why not? Because it's non essential.... so why the strong feels about Serpent Seed another non essential understanding?

It's a fair question