Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
He is the all in all .. the door, the gate, the cornerstone ... He is the Truth ....
Amen! Jesus the author and FINISHER of our Faith.
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Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by tbpew
PP,
If all matters pertaining to the spirit of a man proceed from his heart, what is the NT equivalent of a well-constructed and purposeful wall?
If we can wrestle with this, maybe we will not need to wrestle with flesh and blood or use management strategies that constrain the mixing of humanity.
We need to find a Church Order that is fueled by a spiritual hunger and thirst for righteousness and has minimal regard for the factoids that preoccupy the carnal mind.
We can not be double-minded and prosper.
We must decide ahead of the time, before the tempter comes using some factory-trained, carnally-minded professor, to sway us into engaging the issues of the kingdom of men.
So PP, what is the NT equivalent of the wall...and where is this wall to be constructed and maintained?
I think two very important points should be considered in reading PPs thread.
first of all is the context of PPs ministry. he is no conservitive and in the Apostolic context one should not assume PP is speaking to expansion of a classic arguement for old time standards.
secondly PP has already indicated that a good start would be a review of the first 3 chapters of the book of Revalations.
giving consideration to those two very important bits of information, maybe it changes your view of the opening of the thread a bit?
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Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
You're funny.
Our view of Truth is in danger when we tolerate false doctrine.
See Revelation, chapters one through three.
Apparently Jesus felt some sort of wall needed to be erected to keep false doctrine out.
Are you really suggesting we open our puplits to Wiccans and Catholics? I mean, after all, you believe false doctrine can't hurt Truth, right?
Utter foolishness.
Echoes of Westburg ...
Baron don't be fooled .... He considers one-step theology and other doctrines to his left should not be allowed w/ in his walls and those of the wall-builders ...
Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by Ferd
I think two very important points should be considered in reading PPs thread.
first of all is the context of PPs ministry. he is no conservitive and in the Apostolic context one should not assume PP is speaking to expansion of a classic arguement for old time standards.
secondly PP has already indicated that a good start would be a review of the first 3 chapters of the book of Revalations.
giving consideration to those two very important bits of information, maybe it changes your view of the opening of the thread a bit?
Thank you Ferd.
My simple point is this.
There are some things Jesus won't tolerate in His church. If we cross over into forbidden doctrines He will warn us, discipline us and, if we do not repent, cut us off.
To the pastors he wrote "I will remove your candlestick." (Church)
To the saints he wrote "I will blot your name."
Jesus expects conformity to His Word and commands. We can not come down from Kingdom building. We are building a Kingdom upon the foundation he laid, and with the tools he provides.
It would be foolish to come down from these walls.
Two central Truths must be held to.
1. The New Birth message.
2. The Deity of Jesus Christ.
Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Echoes of Westburg ...
Baron don't be fooled .... He considers one-step theology and other doctrines to his left should not be allowed w/ in his walls and those of the wall-builders ...
Shall we all sign another affirmation statement?
You apparently, Baron may not be a friend.
Let's stop speaking code, please.
First, your analogy is silly because we do not belong to the same organization.
Second, if the Affirmation Statement was based on New Birth doctrine alone I would embrace it with open arms.
Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Thank you Ferd.
My simple point is this.
There are some things Jesus won't tolerate in His church. If we cross over into forbidden doctrines He will warn us, discipline us and, if we do not repent, cut us off.
To the pastors he wrote "I will remove your candlestick." (Church)
To the saints he wrote "I will blot your name."
Jesus expects conformity to His Word and commands. We can not come down from Kingdom building. We are building a Kingdom upon the foundation he laid, and with the tools he provides.
It would be foolish to come down from these walls.
Two central Truths must be held to.
1. The New Birth message. 2. The Deity of Jesus Christ.
These things ought not be tampered with.
Most Christians believe and hold to the New Birth and the Deity of Jesus Christ .... it appears your city is too small.
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