If there are any at all... I think you could fit the black Americans in my living room who have had slavery happen to THEM.
I don't still hate Great Britain for taxation without representation.
These types of angers are often perpetual for one reason... they are being perpetuated.
By whom?
Those who eek their living out of the perpetuation of these feelings.
I guess I'm not really in this conversation so I'll just say one more thing and leave. The point that I have been making is that you will not find many intelligent and balanced Black people talking about slavery....It is the much much, more recent societal issues that are working their way out of people's emotions and mentality.
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I guess I'm not really in this conversation so I'll just say one more thing and leave. The point that I have been making is that you will not find many intelligent and balanced Black people talking about slavery....It is the much much, more recent societal issues that are working their way out of people's emotions and mentality.
Yes sir... I agree... and I apologize for not responding to your previous post. I did hit reply and began posting... but I am working and got side tracked.
I think that the current societal issues that we deal with would be benefited if we could move past the old issues and look squarely in the problems we face these days.
Bringing up the way things "were" (speaking as a white person and speaking to the way I feel when I keep hearing of my supposed "history") puts me on the offensive. Who is going to hear what is being said when they are on the offensive.
Now... present issues? Talk to me... lets talk about what is going on today and... better than that... let's deal with it. Lets change inequities that exist today...
But... in the meantime... can I get this S removed from my garment?
(And... in closing... that last statement was in agreement with what you posted... not a cut at it... I realize that you are saying that we need to focus on todays real and present problems.)
He claims the Rev. J. Wright as his spiritual mentor. He and his wife and children have sat under that teaching for years now. That's all his children know.
Well, his wife was never in her life proud to be an American until her husband was successfully running in the presidential primaries.
They sure don´t need to be in the whitehouse...
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If there are any at all... I think you could fit the black Americans in my living room who have had slavery happen to THEM.
I don't still hate Great Britain for taxation without representation.
These types of angers are often perpetual for one reason... they are being perpetuated.
By whom?
Those who eek their living out of the perpetuation of these feelings.
I promise I am NOT trying to pick a fight with you, but do you seriously equate taxation without representation to what happened during the slavery era in America? Think about it!!!
I guess I'm not really in this conversation so I'll just say one more thing and leave. The point that I have been making is that you will not find many intelligent and balanced Black people talking about slavery....It is the much much, more recent societal issues that are working their way out of people's emotions and mentality.
Think about this also, Black Liberation Theology was largely formulated in the wake of the Islam as it was encroaching upon young black men. Islam offered ethnic identity, cultural continuity, and social morality demanding social justice. Black ministers were very disturbed at the prospects of the growing influence of Islam among young black men. They had to find a way to help Christianity address the plight and concerns of the black man. Christianity was increasingly looking like a white man’s religion. Many blacks felt that even their Christianity was designed to keep them in submission to a Lilly white Jesus looking down from them from the cross through his deep blue eyes. This is largely the environment that Black Liberation Theology was born in. Cone and others had to find a theological approach to addressing the issues black men face so that they could keep blacks from rejecting Christianity.
I don’t see it as a “hate-filled” theology. I see it more as a social adaptation of Christianity to the black consciousness. Is it right? No. I feel it’s misguided in some ways. However, without Black Liberation Theology Islam would be an even greater force within the black community. I think we can all agree that BLT is the lesser of the two evils.
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I promise I am NOT trying to pick a fight with you, but do you seriously equate taxation without representation to what happened during the slavery era in America? Think about it!!!
First... no worried MM... this is a discussion... a sometimes tense one... one that takes brethren with respect for one another to pull off... and I do have respect for you and I take your words for what they are... words put forth to discuss a hard thing to discuss.
No sir... I do not equate it with the issue of slavery (which predated America... remember American ended slavery... we didn't invent it)
And government injustice, no matter how severe, did not equate to actual enslavement. Absolutely not.
But the correlation I was drawing is one of wrongs that were done... without doubt... against Americans... wrongs that required a war to correct.
This is part of our history. We don't deny it. We teach it. But we don't still hold the Brits to the mindsets & actions of their ancestors.
I am not a political person however we do not need this guy to be president...his church in my opinion is nothing but a cult.
I have no problem with black people. Several of my adopted kids are black and I love them just as much as I love my adopted white kids...color is not a problem in my home however America will be sorry if they put in Obama for president.
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Yes sir... I agree... and I apologize for not responding to your previous post. I did hit reply and began posting... but I am working and got side tracked.
I think that the current societal issues that we deal with would be benefited if we could move past the old issues and look squarely in the problems we face these days.
Bringing up the way things "were" (speaking as a white person and speaking to the way I feel when I keep hearing of my supposed "history") puts me on the offensive. Who is going to hear what is being said when they are on the offensive.
Now... present issues? Talk to me... lets talk about what is going on today and... better than that... let's deal with it. Lets change inequities that exist today...
But... in the meantime... can I get this S removed from my garment?
(And... in closing... that last statement was in agreement with what you posted... not a cut at it... I realize that you are saying that we need to focus on todays real and present problems.)
I am a believer in direct and effective dialogue and I have seen many issues and mindsets begin to improve with even one conversation. My point is that many many Black people are only concerned about the present (the media hype machine will only highlight the "40 acres and a mule" crew), but not one Black person I know thinks that way.
So when it comes to dealing with the present and resolving present issues, we need to recognize the impact of what happened in the lifetimes of people who are still living and in generations just once removed. (we had what amounts to Apartheid in my father's lifetime). It's that impact that is slowly dying on both sides.
This is not a shot at anybody here since I know nobody here created the issue. It's just an honest assessment of how we are where we are. I personally feel that given the recent history we have made enormous strides.
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Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
First... no worried MM... this is a discussion... a sometimes tense one... one that takes brethren with respect for one another to pull off... and I do have respect for you and I take your words for what they are... words put forth to discuss a hard thing to discuss.
No sir... I do not equate it with the issue of slavery (which predated America... remember American ended slavery... we didn't invent it)
And government injustice, no matter how severe, did not equate to actual enslavement. Absolutely not.
But the correlation I was drawing is one of wrongs that were done... without doubt... against Americans... wrongs that required a war to correct.
This is part of our history. We don't deny it. We teach it. But we don't still hold the Brits to the mindsets & actions of their ancestors.
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