Well, keep in mind that I said the Godhead issue is important. I didnt say it's salvational. (You seem to assume that I think it is.)
Elder, I have seen you post here for a while and I know that you are a 3-stepper at your core. I do respect that though I am not in agreement. I do however know most if not a majority of the 3-steppers believe with their whole being that one must have the revelation of God/Jesus to make it to heaven. You may be the exception, but I think it is safe to assume you believe that because most of your counter parts follow this way of thinking.
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Elder, I have seen you post here for a while and I know that you are a 3-stepper at your core. I do respect that though I am not in agreement. I do however know most if not a majority of the 3-steppers believe with their whole being that one must have the revelation of God/Jesus to make it to heaven. You may be the exception, but I think it is safe to assume you believe that because most of your counter parts follow this way of thinking.
Understandable.
I will say that the "Trinitarians are lost" conviction might be more prevalent on Apostoic message boards than it is among your everyday apostolics you come across. Maybe its just me, but I havent heard that sentiment expressed by my Apostolic brethren when I'm around them. I'd be wary of trying to draw too many conclusions based on the postings of a liminted number of 3-steppers on this board.
I am strongly against both the Trinity doctrine, and Trinitarian-formula baptism, but I cant say that a person that repents, gets baptized in Jesus' name, and is Spirit filled will miss heaven because of having a distorted view of the Godhead. And yes, I know there are 3-steppers who would strongly disagree with me on that.
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Understandable.
I will say that the "Trinitarians are lost" conviction might be more prevalent on Apostoic message boards than it is among your everyday apostolics you come across. Maybe its just me, but I havent heard that sentiment expressed by my Apostolic brethren when I'm around them. I'd be wary of trying to draw too many conclusions based on the postings of a liminted number of 3-steppers on this board.
I am strongly against both the Trinity doctrine, and Trinitarian-formula baptism, but I cant say that a person that repents, gets baptized in Jesus' name, and is Spirit filled will miss heaven because of having a distorted view of the Godhead. And yes, I know there are 3-steppers who would strongly disagree with me on that.
My only concern is once again the "if we or even an angel from heaven preach anything different let him be accursed"...Can you be accursed and saved at the same time?
I'm not sure how we define what is and isn't important, but I believe that adherence to proper doctrine is the only safe place.
"Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine." "Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you. " 1 Timothy 4:13,16
I don't say this in a competetive, elitist type of way like some might. I genuinely would like all to be saved, and I'm just not sure where we can start to define the level of importance of any aspect of doctrine.
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Understandable.
I will say that the "Trinitarians are lost" conviction might be more prevalent on Apostoic message boards than it is among your everyday apostolics you come across. Maybe its just me, but I havent heard that sentiment expressed by my Apostolic brethren when I'm around them. I'd be wary of trying to draw too many conclusions based on the postings of a liminted number of 3-steppers on this board.
I am strongly against both the Trinity doctrine, and Trinitarian-formula baptism, but I cant say that a person that repents, gets baptized in Jesus' name, and is Spirit filled will miss heaven because of having a distorted view of the Godhead. And yes, I know there are 3-steppers who would strongly disagree with me on that.
You are looking our way! LOL
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"If we don't learn to live together we're gonna die alone"
Jack Shephard.
My only concern is once again the "if we or even an angel from heaven preach anything different let him be accursed"...Can you be accursed and saved at the same time?
I'm not sure how we define what is and isn't important, but I believe that adherence to proper doctrine is the only safe place.
"Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine." "Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you. " 1 Timothy 4:13,16
I don't say this in a competetive, elitist type of way like some might. I genuinely would like all to be saved, and I'm just not sure where we can start to define the level of importance of any aspect of doctrine.
I am not a Bible school grad nor do I try to act like one, but what I do know from what I have been taught and read myself is that Paul could not have been talking about the doctrines of our day. There is no way he could have. In his day there were no Catholics, Methodist, Mormons, etc. I honestly believe that what Peter is saying is if any one preaches anything different that the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus then let him be cursed. I do not think for one minute that he is talking about Acts 2:38 type stuff. Acts 2:38 is not the Gospel. Paul was all about preaching the Gospel-in season and out. The sermon that Paul preached could not have been referring to the Acts 2:28 response to the Gospe. IMO.
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"If we don't learn to live together we're gonna die alone"
Jack Shephard.
To be honest with you when we get to heaven I believe that we will see a quite a few trinatians . That will be a surprise to all the three steppers.
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I know that I am getting a little off the topic right here but I find it kind of funny how adament the three steppers are on the doctrine but yet go to church and worship to music that has been written mostly by trinatians.
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I know that I am getting a little off the topic right here but I find it kind of funny how adament the three steppers are on the doctrine but yet go to church and worship to music that has been written mostly by trinatians.
Sorry, KK. You really dont have a lot there.
We also use bible study tools (Vine's, Strongs, Greek Lexicons, etc) that have been written by Trinitarians. Not a big deal.
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