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04-11-2008, 11:53 PM
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
Jesus is His Name, Christ is a title. I agree with Prax., any noun you place "the" in front of is a title. Ex: Jesus the Christ
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04-12-2008, 12:01 AM
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
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You are correct it seems, but does one have to say in the name of Jesus the Messiah or Christ when baptizing?
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The scripture calls for a proper noun, Jesus. Invoking a common noun after a proper noun isn't necessary.
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04-12-2008, 12:15 AM
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
Is "Jesus" the first name, and "Christ" the last name?
We all believe that "Father", "Son" and "Holy Ghost" are titles, but is "Christ" also a title? When we baptize in the name of Jesus Christ, are we saying his name and title?
From the Catholic Encyclopedia:
The name "Jesus" is an Anglicization of the Greek Ίησους (Iēsous), itself a Hellenization of the Hebrew יהושע (Yehoshua) or Hebrew-Aramaic ישוע (Yeshua), meaning "YHWH rescues". "Christ" is a title derived from the Greek Χριστός (Christós), meaning the "Anointed One," which corresponds to the Hebrew-derived "Messiah".[5]
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I vote for NAME
Since most of us have last names that stem from our ancestors title or job that they worked why can't we say His name is Jesus Christ since his name was Jesus and he was the Christ?
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04-12-2008, 09:18 AM
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
Is "Jesus" the first name, and "Christ" the last name?
We all believe that "Father", "Son" and "Holy Ghost" are titles, but is "Christ" also a title? When we baptize in the name of Jesus Christ, are we saying his name and title?
From the Catholic Encyclopedia:
The name "Jesus" is an Anglicization of the Greek Ίησους (Iēsous), itself a Hellenization of the Hebrew יהושע (Yehoshua) or Hebrew-Aramaic ישוע (Yeshua), meaning "YHWH rescues". "Christ" is a title derived from the Greek Χριστός (Christós), meaning the "Anointed One," which corresponds to the Hebrew-derived "Messiah".[5]
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The Catholic Encyclopedia is right. It is his title.
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04-12-2008, 10:33 AM
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
Christ is obviously a title (as has been pointed out numerous times here).
Its purpose is to clarify. As MOW stated Yeshua was a common name 2,000 years ago. Jesus is a common name today, especially in the local Hispanic community. But there is only ONE Jesus The Christ. And God has made that Jesus the Christ, Lord.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (KJV for the purists)
And as has also been alluded to by Jim Ellis, what we have recorded in the Book of Acts are NOT quotes about what was being said over the baptismal candidate, it was a recording of by whose AUTHORITY the baptism was occurring.
I am somewhat surprised that so many who perceive themselves to be literalists, and consider Acts 2:38 to the most profound and succinct theological statement recorded would not understand something a mere two verses prior.
Jesus, English derivative of Yeshua, derivative of anglicized Hebrew Joshua, meaning savior. Is Lord of Lords, ruler over all creation, through the Spirit which overshadowed Mary. And is Messiah, the God-Man, redeemer.
Lord Jesus Christ.
It is through His sacrifice, (death, burial, and resurrection)Salvation is possible. And therefore, since He alone has the keys to death and hell, He alone has the power to remit sin, He alone is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no man can come to the Father but by Him. We are baptized in His name. Not a magic incantation to be repeated sound for sound in the original language. But recognition of His authority. "Baptized in the Name of"
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04-12-2008, 10:53 AM
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
Christ is obviously a title (as has been pointed out numerous times here).
Its purpose is to clarify. As MOW stated Yeshua was a common name 2,000 years ago. Jesus is a common name today, especially in the local Hispanic community. But there is only ONE Jesus The Christ. And God has made that Jesus the Christ, Lord.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (KJV for the purists)
And as has also been alluded to by Jim Ellis, what we have recorded in the Book of Acts are NOT quotes about what was being said over the baptismal candidate, it was a recording of by whose AUTHORITY the baptism was occurring.
I am somewhat surprised that so many who perceive themselves to be literalists, and consider Acts 2:38 to the most profound and succinct theological statement recorded would not understand something a mere two verses prior.
Jesus, English derivative of Yeshua, derivative of anglicized Hebrew Joshua, meaning savior. Is Lord of Lords, ruler over all creation, through the Spirit which overshadowed Mary. And is Messiah, the God-Man, redeemer.
Lord Jesus Christ.
It is through His sacrifice, (death, burial, and resurrection)Salvation is possible. And therefore, since He alone has the keys to death and hell, He alone has the power to remit sin, He alone is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no man can come to the Father but by Him. We are baptized in His name. Not a magic incantation to be repeated sound for sound in the original language. But recognition of His authority. "Baptized in the Name of"
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
Christ is obviously a title (as has been pointed out numerous times here).
Its purpose is to clarify. As MOW stated Yeshua was a common name 2,000 years ago. Jesus is a common name today, especially in the local Hispanic community. But there is only ONE Jesus The Christ. And God has made that Jesus the Christ, Lord.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (KJV for the purists)
And as has also been alluded to by Jim Ellis, what we have recorded in the Book of Acts are NOT quotes about what was being said over the baptismal candidate, it was a recording of by whose AUTHORITY the baptism was occurring.
I am somewhat surprised that so many who perceive themselves to be literalists, and consider Acts 2:38 to the most profound and succinct theological statement recorded would not understand something a mere two verses prior.
Jesus, English derivative of Yeshua, derivative of anglicized Hebrew Joshua, meaning savior. Is Lord of Lords, ruler over all creation, through the Spirit which overshadowed Mary. And is Messiah, the God-Man, redeemer.
Lord Jesus Christ.
It is through His sacrifice, (death, burial, and resurrection)Salvation is possible. And therefore, since He alone has the keys to death and hell, He alone has the power to remit sin, He alone is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no man can come to the Father but by Him. We are baptized in His name. Not a magic incantation to be repeated sound for sound in the original language. But recognition of His authority. "Baptized in the Name of"
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Excellent, excellent, excellent.
Simply excellent post!
I felt the Holy Ghost reading it.
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04-12-2008, 12:51 PM
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
"...We have found the Messiah, which is, being interpreted, the Christ."
John 1:41 "...I know that Messiah cometh, which is called Christ..."
John 4:25
These two passages of scripture define Christ as Messiah. Therefore, we can say that the word Christ means the same as Messiah or:
Christ = Messiah
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
"And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples,
which are not written in this book:
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ,
the Son of God;
and that believing ye might have life through his name."
John 20:30-31
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
I would say the word Christ tells us Who He is...
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