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Sept5SavedTeen · #21 04-01-2008, 03:15 PM

The more important question is how many people he has stay in his house. A minister who does not show hospitality is not meeting the full qualifications of ministry. I know a bishop who, every time I'm in the area, I have a place to stay in his house, and him and his wife show me great hospitality. I thanked him for his hospitality and he told me, "It's my job brother!" That there is a real bishop.
I also just stayed at the deacon's house, from my own assembly, this past Saturday and Sunday (as some of you know, I live VERY far from the church's meetinghouse, I usually stay at the meetinghouse's evangelist quarters, but it was taken by another travelling minister), and the hospitality, once again was great.
I plan to enter the ministry as a pastor, and there will be evangelist quarters and a guest room in my own house/parsonage... You'll all be welcome to stay anytime you're passing through the White Mountains area in New Hampshire!

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Margies3 · #22 04-01-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

The more important question is how many people he has stay in his house. A minister who does not show hospitality is not meeting the full qualifications of ministry. I know a bishop who, every time I'm in the area, I have a place to stay in his house, and him and his wife show me great hospitality. I thanked him for his hospitality and he told me, "It's my job brother!" That there is a real bishop.
I also just stayed at the deacon's house, from my own assembly, this past Saturday and Sunday (as some of you know, I live VERY far from the church's meetinghouse, I usually stay at the meetinghouse's evangelist quarters, but it was taken by another travelling minister), and the hospitality, once again was great.
I plan to enter the ministry as a pastor, and there will be evangelist quarters and a guest room in my own house/parsonage... You'll all be welcome to stay anytime you're passing through the White Mountains area in New Hampshire!

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Say WHAT???? Brother, we are all called to be hospitable. Not just the pastor.

MissBrattified · #23 04-01-2008, 03:28 PM

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Say WHAT???? Brother, we are all called to be hospitable. Not just the pastor.

That's true, Margie, but in the qualifications for a bishop, it is mentioned that he should be a "lover of hospitality", which means "fond of guests."

Sept5SavedTeen · #24 04-01-2008, 03:29 PM

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Say WHAT???? Brother, we are all called to be hospitable. Not just the pastor.

Amen! But when someone is passing thru a town, and knows no one in the assembly, contacts the pastor about information about service times, and there is no invitation of hospitality? Often, the pastor is the first one a traveler comes in contact with. Also, it is part of their job as bishops, elders and deacons to be hospitable.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Margies3 · #25 04-01-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

That's true, Margie, but in the qualifications for a bishop, it is mentioned that he should be a "lover of hospitality", which means "fond of guests."

I don't disagree with this.

The problem I'm having is with it is that MOST pastors I know give so much and sacrifice so much, that I have a very hard time judging someone by whether or not they fix up a bedroom for me for whenever I want to stay the night.

I hope that doesn't sound harsh, Alex. I don't mean it to. I do understand what you are saying. But I do have a hard time with the idea of us as saints requiring more of our pastors than we would require of ourselves.

dizzyde · #26 04-01-2008, 03:41 PM

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I'm curious to know how many UPC pastors actually take all the tithes as their income? I know I've been out for many years and that when I was UPC I always attended small churches that barely scraped by. But I don't know that I ever sat under a pastor who took all the tithe. In fact, at least 2 of the pastors I sat under actually ended up paying to pastor the church. In one case his wife worked and he pastored. They are the ones who lived in the tiny parsonage we could provide. So most of their money actually ended up going back into the church to pay church bills. In the other case, the pastor himself worked and so did his wife. And I know for a fact that they put more into the church than anyone else there for years and years and years.

In our local assembly the tithes pay both of the pastors salary as well as all of the church staff salaries, as well as funding various of the churches ministries. And in the annual business meeting there is a complete breakdown of what has come in, and where it has gone.

Margies3 · #27 04-01-2008, 03:48 PM

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In our local assembly the tithes pay both of the pastors salary as well as all of the church staff salaries, as well as funding various of the churches ministries. And in the annual business meeting there is a complete breakdown of what has come in, and where it has gone.

Diz,

I believe your assembly is probably very much in line with most others.

Jack Shephard · #28 04-01-2008, 03:49 PM

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Miss bratt I do spend my money where I want.

The problem is most UPC pastors pearch tithe or rob God.

So Like may holiness standards, Tithe is included with heaven and hell.

Yet they take 10% and build castles like Saddam.

I am fore being blessed, Iam for spending their money where they like.
,but the question is when is enough enough.

We make fun of the money stealing with other orgs, (TBN) yet we may look the other way at those living high in the UPC.

I know of a UPC minister running about 250 and making over $200,00 a year

Me too. It was told that the pastor I know that makes 200k only apid taxes on 12k. That was told by the ex son-in-law, but could have been a lie. I know a pastor that his home is 2 million+ used a home equity line of credit to pay off the church building. But the home was built with some money he made from flipping homes. Some have said this man steals and some believe the other. I would care if he stole from the tithe, but at least I know I am doing my part by giving, it is on him if he takes it and God will judge accordingly.

MissBrattified · #29 04-01-2008, 03:54 PM

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Me too. It was told that the pastor I know that makes 200k only apid taxes on 12k. That was told by the ex son-in-law, but could have been a lie. I know a pastor that his home is 2 million+ used a home equity line of credit to pay off the church building. But the home was built with some money he made from flipping homes. Some have said this man steals and some believe the other. I would care if he stole from the tithe, but at least I know I am doing my part by giving, it is on him if he takes it and God will judge accordingly.

I'm confused. Which part would be stealing? Flipping homes? Or using his personal home equity to pay off the church?

Jack Shephard · #30 04-01-2008, 04:16 PM

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I'm confused. Which part would be stealing? Flipping homes? Or using his personal home equity to pay off the church?

Actually neither, I guess I didn't make it clear enough that he has been accused of stealing from the church like from the tithe and such. Mainly some of the accusations are from former and some disgruntaled members. Nothing has ever been proven or reported to police. So it might be just pointing fingers at the man because people do not like him or whatever. I try and stay out of it.