Greek Studies??

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by HaShaliach

Hi lady! Nice to see you on these boards. I am just visiting for a while. Loved your comments on the other boards wh have shared from time to time.

Been too busy lately. I'm still here in full force though! lol

Originally Posted by HaShaliach

Bacl to the issueat hand: Concerning the identification and selection of words and their translation:

Please see translation notes at:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...n/De22-52a.jpg
and compare to the lexicon definition and usage. Added note:the English word "wear" and "pertaineth to" in this passage, is the same word used to express both ideas (extended concept).

This may also be referenced on-line at:

H3627; http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/...gs=H3627&t=KJV

verses

H1961; http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/...gs=H1961&t=KJV

However, if anyone disagrees with my translation and comments, please publish your translations and commentaries for board review. I am sure it will provide us all with a good discussion.

Also everyone is invited to review the images (translation notes) referenced in my original post on this subject.

Interesting. Where's hawlaw in blue letter? It's there in the Hebrew text.

I think blue letter is letting you down on this one (and that's my experience, it's a good resource..but not for setting up the studies as we do them). I always compare blue letter, e-sword and davar to make sure nothing's leaving out a Hebrew word somewhere. E-sword's wrong sometimes, blue letter is often wrong, but I figure the Hebrew text is usually going to be right.

I laughed when I opened your notes. Look mighty familiar there! lol

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

Been too busy lately. I'm still here in full force though! lol



Interesting. Where's hawlaw in blue letter? It's there in the Hebrew text.

I think blue letter is letting you down on this one (and that's my experience, it's a good resource..but not for setting up the studies as we do them). I always compare blue letter, e-sword and davar to make sure nothing's leaving out a Hebrew word somewhere. E-sword's wrong sometimes, blue letter is often wrong, but I figure the Hebrew text is usually going to be right.

I laughed when I opened your notes. Look mighty familiar there! lol

I also found an error in the new Strongest Strongs. I contacted the writer and he confirmed there was an error. So, that is suspect also.

I also understand that Thayer's isn't as reliable because it is using more of the modern Greek. Have you found that information to be correct?

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I also found an error in the new Strongest Strongs. I contacted the writer and he confirmed there was an error. So, that is suspect also.

I also understand that Thayer's isn't as reliable because it is using more of the modern Greek. Have you found that information to be correct?

I don't use strongs, except for the numbers.

I really lean towards sticking to Hebrew right now. lol I'm learning the language as I study and I just know if I started studying Greek very much I'd totally mess my poor little brain up.

I use Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament (available online at blueletterbible.com). When I have looked at things in Greek, I do use Thayer's (also available at blueletterbible.com) but I really don't know enough about working with Greek to feel comfortable doing much study there yet. I'll get there. I do know I don't really like Thayer's...when I get ready to do more study I'm probably going to set out on a mission to find the best lexicon I can. I'll let you know what I end up finding out.

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I also understand that Thayer's isn't as reliable because it is using more of the modern Greek. Have you found that information to be correct?

And just to have this in my head when I do go looking...as reliable as what? Compared to what? Or are you just saying not reliable in general?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

I don't use strongs, except for the numbers.

I really lean towards sticking to Hebrew right now. lol I'm learning the language as I study and I just know if I started studying Greek very much I'd totally mess my poor little brain up.

I use Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament (available online at blueletterbible.com). When I have looked at things in Greek, I do use Thayer's (also available at blueletterbible.com) but I really don't know enough about working with Greek to feel comfortable doing much study there yet. I'll get there. I do know I don't really like Thayer's...when I get ready to do more study I'm probably going to set out on a mission to find the best lexicon I can. I'll let you know what I end up finding out.

Thanks!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

And just to have this in my head when I do go looking...as reliable as what? Compared to what? Or are you just saying not reliable in general?

As the older Greek definitions. I heard it incorporates a modern translation. Just wanting to see if anyone had an opinion on that.

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

As the older Greek definitions. I heard it incorporates a modern translation. Just wanting to see if anyone had an opinion on that.

I'll see what I can find out. It might take me awhile to get to that though..lol My brain is pretty fried right now.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Boy threads like this can be dangerous,because they require thought,I guess we can get someone's permission to think.

[A.W. Bowman]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

Been too busy lately. I'm still here in full force though! lol



Interesting. Where's hawlaw in blue letter? It's there in the Hebrew text.

I think blue letter is letting you down on this one (and that's my experience, it's a good resource..but not for setting up the studies as we do them). I always compare blue letter, e-sword and davar to make sure nothing's leaving out a Hebrew word somewhere. E-sword's wrong sometimes, blue letter is often wrong, but I figure the Hebrew text is usually going to be right.

I laughed when I opened your notes. Look mighty familiar there! lol

Well, that template has made the rounds - hasn't it! LOLOL

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Okay Sis, you're going to have to help me out here.

הלא - haw-law') (Niphal) to be removed far away, be removed far off; Strong's H7971

I have looked through all of the Hebrew words in this passage, including each part of the compound words (18 total), and looked through the Apeppo Codex, BHM, BHS, Leningrad Codex, plus several additional "minor" texts, and I can’t find haw-law (הלא) in any Hebrew text for De 22:5.

Was this a test or something? LOLOL

BTW, the Blue Bible Hebrew Lexicon is an edited down version of the Gesenius 1847 edition that Robert published. The majority of the "mising elements" are the extensive single letter dissertations. I use the On-line version for quick checks. For detailed work I use the New B-D-B-Gesenius Hebrew-English Lexicon.

Another general note for the forum: Like English translations of the original texts, there are no perfect concordances/lexicons either!

[A.W. Bowman]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Boy threads like this can be dangerous,because they require thought,I guess we can get someone's permission to think.

We are starting a revolution!

It is now a tag-team effort, and your tagged.