\ IMHO this decision, if indeed true, would take the UPCI back into the dark ages as it relates to open fellowship and breaking down the walls that separate us that KH has been an advocate of.
chtat: Good one.
bishop: please understand that I'm not trying to be provocative or evocative any other kind of ocative. Because I don't know the overall context of your position i am little confused and just would like some clarification. I'm not trying to start a spitting contest, ok? I tried to PM you but for some reason it didn't work.
When you say KH as been an "advocate", to what are you referring? Taking the UPC back into the dark ages or breaking down walls?
I assume you mean the latter, but just wondering because the way it was written it could possibly be construed as the former. I'd hate for you to be misunderstood. It's a terrible thing. Ask me how I know.
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bishop: please understand that I'm not trying to be provocative or evocative any other kind of ocative. Because I don't know the overall context of your position i am little confused and just would like some clarification. I'm not trying to start a spitting contest, ok? I tried to PM you but for some reason it didn't work.
When you say KH as been an "advocate", to what are you referring? Taking the UPC back into the dark ages or breaking down walls?
I assume you mean the latter, but just wondering because the way it was written it could possibly be construed as the former. I'd hate for you to be misunderstood. It's a terrible thing. Ask me how I know.
KH has been very public concerning his desire to tear down the walls of separation from fellow Apostolics. While there are some things I disagree with KH on, I applaud his efforts in this regard. KH is in my opinion a progressive thinker and an excellent leader. Like any leader before him, (political or spiritual) history will define him by the action/reactions with which he leads through these troubled waters. JMHO
KH has been very public concerning his desire to tear down the walls of separation from fellow Apostolics. While there are some things I disagree with KH on, I applaud his efforts in this regard. KH is in my opinion a progressive thinker and an excellent leader. Like any leader before him, (political or spiritual) history will define him by the action/reactions with which he leads through these troubled waters. JMHO
ok. thanks for the clarification. i figured that was your position. i've not heard kh speak in awhile so i don't know his position on all this stuff. presumably i could extrapolate his position from things i've heard him say in years past but i didn't want to assume. kudos for him.
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"Most human beings are not able to stand the message of the shaking of foundations. They reject and attack the prophetic minds, not because they really disagree with them, but because they sense the truth of their words and cannot receive it." Paul Tillich
We also should remember in our discussions that no one man makes the decisions, the votes are cast by the general board members. Who knows how close a vote it may or may not have been, if such a vote occurred.
Was anyone there?
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Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
Unfortunately, I think the UPCI will continue to make bad decisions based upon the proliferation of "leaders" who are still intolerant in their viewpoint. I wish this were not true, but I am afraid it is. Politics will prevail, in all its glory.
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The Book of 2 Kings 2: 11-13 (NEW AFF INTERNET VERSION)
And it came to pass, as they still posted on, and talked about current events, that, behold, a big red limo appeared, with a big Hammond organ, and parted them both asunder; and Thad went in a California earthquake to that big newsroom in the sky.
And Daniel A. saw it, and he posted about it, saying "Relaible sources tell me about this new BOMBSHELL!" And he wrote about Thad no more: but went back to AFF to discuss the pros of the 1 step veiw. And he thumped of his own chest, and, with a voice of thunder, cried, "I'm more Apostolic than you all!"
He took up also the mantle of Thad that fell from him, and went back and posted the latest news on the Apostolic Friends Forum.
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Waiting for the Lord is easy... Waiting patiently? Not so much.