Blah to that. What was the end result of Acts 10? Looks like your smoking gun took a "third step".
So Daniel, Peter asked a question. "Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?"
Well can ya?
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Originally Posted by RevDWW
Maybe you need the rest of the story......
If belief and Holy Ghost baptism were all that is required why would Peter command Old Corn and company to get dunked. It is obvious that in both Acts 2 and 10 the baptism commanded is water baptism, because in 2 it was said that if you repented and were baptized you would receive the Holy Ghost and in 10 they had already been "baptized" in the Spirit and were commanded to be baptized in water. And didn't Corn want to hear the commandments of God that were given to Peter?
[All the above was thought out and typed with little if any emotion]
Gentlemen,
No one denies that a regenerated person possessing genuine faith will be baptism early in his/her conversion ...
I can read further as can everyone else. However, you are yet to reconcile Romans 8 w/ Acts 10. Cornelius was filled w/ the Holy Spirit ... in your paradigm when he spoke in tongues ... and so if filled then Romans 8 tells us that he was born of God ...These gaping holes in their theology show that one, namely Cornelius and those in his house, can be declared righteous, quickened unto life, put to death the deeds of the body, be declared His, set free from the law of sin and death .... not condemened in Christ Jesus ... a son of God PRIOR TO BEING FULLY SAVED ... REGENERATED ...OR COMPLETING THE NEW BIRTH PROCESS according to your recipe.
Do you deny he had to Spirit of Christ prior to water baptism?
In your linear view of course he took a third step and many more after ...but we speak of regeneration ...
No one denies that a regenerated person possessing genuine faith will be baptism early in his/her conversion ...
I can read further as can everyone else. However, you are yet to reconcile Romans 8 w/ Acts 10. Cornelius was filled w/ the Holy Spirit ... in your paradigm when he spoke in tongues ... and so if filled then Romans 8 tells us that he was born of God ...These gaping holes in their theology show that one, namely Cornelius and those in his house, can be declared righteous, quickened unto life, put to death the deeds of the body, be declared His, set free from the law of sin and death .... not condemened in Christ Jesus ... a son of God PRIOR TO BEING FULLY SAVED ... REGENERATED ...OR COMPLETING THE NEW BIRTH PROCESS according to your recipe.
Do you deny he had to Spirit of Christ prior to water baptism?
In your linear view of course he took a third step and many more after ...but we speak of regeneration ...
Daniel,
If Cornelius was complete then why go on to verse 10:47? I believe it has to do with the vessel.
Daniel,
If Cornelius was complete then why go on to verse 10:47? I believe it has to do with the vessel.
Why do we go to other commandments Christ commanded PO ... to be regenerated?.
Believers are baptized, no doubt ... and they love their neighbor.
However, will anyone address the issue in which Paul clearly states what happens in the believer when they have the Spirit of Christ.
How do you explain the gaping holes in re-enactment theology when namely Cornelius and those in his house, are declared righteous, quickened unto life, put to death the deeds of the body (which btw, is claimed only to happen at water baptism), be declared His, set free from the law of sin and death .... not condemened in Christ Jesus ... a child of God w/ full access to the Father and eternal inheritance PRIOR TO BEING FULLY SAVED ... REGENERATED ...OR COMPLETING THE NEW BIRTH PROCESS?
Why do we go to other commandments Christ commanded PO ... to be regenerated?.
Believers are baptized, no doubt ... and they love their neighbor.
However, will anyone address the issue in which Paul clearly states what happens in the believer when they have the Spirit of Christ.
How do you explain the gaping holes in re-enactment theology when namely Cornelius and those in his house, are declared righteous, quickened unto life, put to death the deeds of the body (which btw, is claimed only to happen at water baptism), be declared His, set free from the law of sin and death .... not condemened in Christ Jesus ... a child of God w/ full access to the Father and eternal inheritance PRIOR TO BEING FULLY SAVED ... REGENERATED ...OR COMPLETING THE NEW BIRTH PROCESS?
What was the "way of God more perfectly" that Priscilla and Aquila showed Apollos? He, obviously, had baptism down.
What was the "way of God more perfectly" that Priscilla and Aquila showed Apollos? He, obviously, had baptism down.
1. It does not say to be saved.
2. His baptism was not in a confession of faith to the Work of the Lamb, Jesus Christ. His baptism had been unto John until this point.
3. Does know the way of the Lord more perfectly when it comes to stewardship regenerates us?
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