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Old 03-14-2007, 11:16 AM
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Seriously folks .... it is apparent that this retirement benefits package argument is being propped up... along with other carefully crafted one's to justify a long awaited split ....

If this is what the UC's are hanging on to .... along with the holiness argument then I say the fellowship is better off without those clowns .....

Why don't we get to the crux of the matter and stop dilly dallying ????

This has been something that has been deeply rooted for years.

This about money, power, ideology and influence .... not about injustice or some spiritual higher ground.

It is not solely about a missionaries retirement benefits...the issue is much deeper.

End of story
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:21 AM
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So in your opinion who will the slipt go and what will be the issue(s)?
Issues that are and will be propagandized by both sides:

Holiness vs. Evangelism
Small Gov't vs. Bigger Gov't
Justice vs. Injustice
Spirituality vs. Carnality

but really it boils down to money, power, ideology and influence ...
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:22 AM
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Issues that are and will be propagandized by both sides:

Holiness vs. Evangelism
Small Gov't vs. Small Gov't
Justice vs. Injustice
Spirituality vs. Carnality

but really it boils down to money, power, ideology and influence ...
???
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:26 AM
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Seriously folks .... it is apparent that this retirement benefits package argument is being propped up... along with other carefully crafted one's to justify a long awaited split ....

If this is what the UC's are hanging on to .... along with the holiness argument then I say the fellowship is better off without those clowns .....

Why don't we get to the crux of the matter and stop dilly dallying ????

This has been something that has been deeply rooted for years.

This about money, power, ideology and influence .... not about injustice or some spiritual higher ground.
What are UCs and why are they CLOWNS?
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:27 AM
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bigger gov't ... sorry
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What are UCs and why are they CLOWNS?
they are ultra conservatives and they are clowns because they don't agree with Dan!
















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It is not solely about a missionaries retirement benefits...the issue is much deeper.

End of story
You are right on that.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:30 AM
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But are steadily increasing in Value!
perhaps increasing in number, but not in value....
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Man, I hate for this to be my first post, but here goes:

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Seriously folks .... it is apparent that this retirement benefits package argument is being propped up...
Apparent? How so? Do you have all the facts, or is the fact that the facts contradict indicate that no one knows exactly what has happened?

I've read the correspondences between the two primary parties. Have you?



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If this is what the UC's are hanging on to .... along with the holiness argument then I say the fellowship is better off without those clowns .....
Clowns? Are the UC's clowns because they hold standards you don't? They're clowns because the missionaries who preach these standards are prevented from doing so by the higher ups in the FMD?



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Why don't we get to the crux of the matter and stop dilly dallying ????

This has been something that has been deeply rooted for years.

This about money, power, ideology and influence .... not about injustice or some spiritual higher ground.
But, it's the UC's who are to blame? Sorry if I misread you, but that seems to be what you are insinuating.
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Man, I hate for this to be my first post, but here goes:


Apparent? How so? Do you have all the facts, or is the fact that the facts contradict indicate that no one knows exactly what has happened?

I've read the correspondences between the two primary parties. Have you?



Clowns? Are the UC's clowns because they hold standards you don't? They're clowns because the missionaries who preach these standards are prevented from doing so by the higher ups in the FMD?



But, it's the UC's who are to blame? Sorry if I misread you, but that seems to be what you are insinuating.
OGIA ... or whoever you really are ...

Sorry for the clown comment it was in a fit of passion ....

It's obvious that the UC army is mobilizing prior to the election in Sept ... it started in Houston in '06 and it is taking a mind and force of it's own ...

Let's cut to the chase and get down to business .... documents mean nothing ... they are simply being compiled to make a case for DIVISION ....
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