CeCe Winans under fire for singing at Gay church

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I was trying to stir the pot and get some conversation going.....seems to have worked!

You need a raise woman!

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I agree with you Renda...BTW wasn't Jesus often criticized by the Pharisees for associating and eating with publicans and sinners?

Eating with theme is one thing Rhoni, I have no problem with that.

I just would never see him going to the Queer Church!

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

You know, this is just a dumb question if you think about it.
How do you reach the lost?

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I agree with you Renda...BTW wasn't Jesus often criticized by the Pharisees for associating and eating with publicans and sinners?

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I was trying to stir the pot and get some conversation going.....seems to have worked!

Rhoni...Renda might have said it just to "stir" the pot, but apparently you seriously seem to think there's nothing wrong with what Cece Winans is doing.

You may be offended by me saying this, but I'll just speak frankly here...
If you don't see the HUGE spiritual distinction between Jesus' eating with sinners...versus a singer "ministering" in a Queer Church, then I have to seriously question your judgment.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Rhoni...Renda might have said it just to "stir" the pot, but apparently you seriously seem to think there's nothing wrong with what Cece Winans is doing.

You may be offended by me saying this, but I'll just speak frankly here...
If you don't see the HUGE spiritual distinction between Jesus' eating with sinners...versus a singer "ministering" in a Queer Church, then I have to seriously question your judgment.

Jesus came not to call the righteous, but the sinners to repentance. I think it is a sin for Apostolics to only eat, fellowship and minister to Apostolics.

You guys don't read the same Bible I do.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Mrs. LPW]

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

Indeed... I hope this happens. I won't say it can't but the liklihood is slim. These are not just any sinners. These are people who preach God accepts the sin... that it is not a sin at all.

We are living in a world where some sin has been widely accepted.. and because of this there are those of Christian "faith" who have been conditioned to believe the same as the world. We're all afraid of being called biggots or labled intolerant for our stance. We're bombarded daily by these thoughts...
How can love be wrong?

If this were a church who believed you can be a Christian and murder, or lie, we wouldn't be having this conversation. We'd all be on the same page.

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I agree with you Renda...BTW wasn't Jesus often criticized by the Pharisees for associating and eating with publicans and sinners?

Of course he was... but he wasn't eating with Pharisees was he? They were the religious yet misguided of the day.

I agree we must do more... this isn't something I would consider though. I'm sure she'll take flak from people who's opinion she actually cares about... so my opinion doesn't really matter. I don't think her singing there is a good idea nonetheless.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Ron

Eating with theme is one thing Rhoni, I have no problem with that.

I just would never see him going to the Queer Church!

No, Jesus personally went , without a witness, to the Well to purposely meet with the Samaritan woman who was guilty of adultery! Boy, we could gossip about that a while.

[simplyme]

Originally Posted by Diamond Jim

Then ask her why she is singing at a church that affirms this lifestyle.

I 2nd that question, WHY??????
There is no logic to claim something then by actions, affirm the opposite., just as by going to 'minister' at a trinitarian church that doesn't believe in ONENESS is not something that one believing IN ONENESS would logically do., what integrity is in a statement that one is against salvation in "the titles" or "homosexuality as an alternative lifestyle" as our LORD speaks against in His WORD, then okay it by going along with those whom practice such? *shrug*

Simply baffled am I.

[Mrs. LPW]

Jesus would definitely walk into that "Queer Church" (not my terminology.. not sure I like it) but he would preach repentance... there's no way He would walk in... teach something fluffy... sing something nice.. and walk back out.. never telling them point blank to come out of their sin and He would recieve them and help them through it.
He would tell them He loved them and He loved them enough to not leave them in sin.

I like CeCe... love her singing. But I doubt highly she'll be saying ANYTHING to rock that boat.

And with regards to the Samaritan woman.. Jesus told her to drink of the water that HE could give... he didn't leave her in sin.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by simplyme

I 2nd that question, WHY??????
Makes no sense to claim something then by actions, affirm the opposite.

I guess you wouldn't like the church I go to. We minister to and feed the homeless in a bar/tavern.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

Jesus would definitely walk into that "Queer Church" (not my terminology.. not sure I like it) but he would preach repentance... there's no way He would walk in... teach something fluffy... sing something nice.. and walk back out.. never telling them point blank to come out of their sin and He would recieve them and help them through it.
He would tell them He loved them and He loved them enough to not leave them in sin.

I like CeCe... love her singing. But I doubt highly she'll be saying ANYTHING to rock that boat.

And with regards to the Samaritan woman.. Jesus told her to drink of the water that HE could give... he didn't leave her in sin.

One plants, another waters, but GOD gives the increase. God left the woman of Samaria with the choice.

Hum...what a thought.