New To This-can You Define Please?

[winklebottom]

Originally Posted by brotherjason

Wish I would have saw this one before I answered your last one, could have combined answers. Most UPCI folks I've met consider me their brother. I've preached in a UPCI church, made friends in the UPCI, I just don't have the membership card to the org, but we have the same membership card to the kingdom and that's what counts.

thank you brothjason-that is what it is all about isn't it!!
Now what if I said (again remembering-stanch Acts 2:38 followers) but allow women to wear pants and cut hair. Would you preach at a church like this?
--Thanking you in advance for your truthful answers...and anyone else who would like to jump in.......

Part of the five-fold ministry in the bible; evangelists, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers

[winklebottom]

Also does the UPC or UPCI (I dont care which one, and frankly cant keep the titles straight...)have Bishops and Pastors like some other denominations do?

[winklebottom]

Originally Posted by winklebottom

Also does the UPC or UPCI (I dont care which one, and frankly cant keep the titles straight...)have Bishops and Pastors like some other denominations do?

Sorry....I am again quoting myself in hopes of getting an answer to this question.........

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by winklebottom

Sorry....I am again quoting myself in hopes of getting an answer to this question.........

Majority are called pastors.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by winklebottom

Also does the UPC or UPCI (I dont care which one, and frankly cant keep the titles straight...)have Bishops and Pastors like some other denominations do?

the use of the term "Bishops" is returning to some general usage in the UPC but the application can be misleading.

the UPC (a member-minister fellowship organization) has had a general superintendent, and each district has a district superintendant. Each district has certain specialty role players but the oversight of the member ministers is primarily established by a set of presbyters based on sections of each district.


The UPCI is NOT denominal; meaning authority does not denominate from the top down. There is not one guy at the top, who then talks to his next level who tells the next level....and so on. Each member-minister is an autonomous agent but to remain in fellowship with the member-minister group, he must conduct his affairs within the construct of bylaws (and affirmations) identified in a manual.

The same word that is translated as bishop can be translated as superintendant; overseer. Bishops in the UPC(I) normally pertain to founding pastors who have been involved in having a role in sponsoring "daughter-works"; a bishop title becomes purposeful because of a plurality of pastors related to various congregations all connecting back to some sponsoring assembly. To a lesser degree, it has become a term of endearment for some folks who choose to add a title to person of significance in their own life. The title seems to encapsulate a certain high recognition; a kind of honoring by creating distinction.

So the word does not mean anything specific within the member-minister organization but does have an increasing application at the local church level where individual founders have their own form of demoninal (hierarchal) structure.


Hope this helps and I hope you feel welcome at this little corner of cyberspace. Please note: If you are relatively new to this forum, it is the result of a human construct, don't judge God or the work of his Spirit by an internet forum.

regards,
tbpew

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by winklebottom

Can someone define for me the difference between Evangelical and Apostolic? Can a Oneness church be considered Evangelical?

What is a winkle bottom?

[winklebottom]

Originally Posted by tbpew

the use of the term "Bishops" is returning to some general usage in the UPC but the application can be misleading.

the UPC (a member-minister fellowship organization) has had a general superintendent, and each district has a district superintendant. Each district has certain specialty role players but the oversight of the member ministers is primarily established by a set of presbyters based on sections of each district.


The UPCI is NOT denominal; meaning authority does not denominate from the top down. There is not one guy at the top, who then talks to his next level who tells the next level....and so on. Each member-minister is an autonomous agent but to remain in fellowship with the member-minister group, he must conduct his affairs within the construct of bylaws (and affirmations) identified in a manual.

The same word that is translated as bishop can be translated as superintendant; overseer. Bishops in the UPC(I) normally pertain to founding pastors who have been involved in having a role in sponsoring "daughter-works"; a bishop title becomes purposeful because of a plurality of pastors related to various congregations all connecting back to some sponsoring assembly. To a lesser degree, it has become a term of endearment for some folks who choose to add a title to person of significance in their own life. The title seems to encapsulate a certain high recognition; a kind of honoring by creating distinction.

So the word does not mean anything specific within the member-minister organization but does have an increasing application at the local church level where individual founders have their own form of demoninal (hierarchal) structure.


Hope this helps and I hope you feel welcome at this little corner of cyberspace. Please note: If you are relatively new to this forum, it is the result of a human construct, don't judge God or the work of his Spirit by an internet forum.

regards,
tbpew

Thank you!! This helps a lot!!!

[winklebottom]

Originally Posted by COOPER

What is a winkle bottom?

Heavy on the Winkle...not WRINKLE!!!!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by tbpew

the use of the term "Bishops" is returning to some general usage in the UPC but the application can be misleading.

the UPC (a member-minister fellowship organization) has had a general superintendent, and each district has a district superintendant. Each district has certain specialty role players but the oversight of the member ministers is primarily established by a set of presbyters based on sections of each district.


The UPCI is NOT denominal; meaning authority does not denominate from the top down. There is not one guy at the top, who then talks to his next level who tells the next level....and so on. Each member-minister is an autonomous agent but to remain in fellowship with the member-minister group, he must conduct his affairs within the construct of bylaws (and affirmations) identified in a manual.

The same word that is translated as bishop can be translated as superintendant; overseer. Bishops in the UPC(I) normally pertain to founding pastors who have been involved in having a role in sponsoring "daughter-works"; a bishop title becomes purposeful because of a plurality of pastors related to various congregations all connecting back to some sponsoring assembly. To a lesser degree, it has become a term of endearment for some folks who choose to add a title to person of significance in their own life. The title seems to encapsulate a certain high recognition; a kind of honoring by creating distinction.

So the word does not mean anything specific within the member-minister organization but does have an increasing application at the local church level where individual founders have their own form of demoninal (hierarchal) structure.


Hope this helps and I hope you feel welcome at this little corner of cyberspace. Please note: If you are relatively new to this forum, it is the result of a human construct, don't judge God or the work of his Spirit by an internet forum.

regards,
tbpew

I would only add that in recent years, it has become in vogue for retireing pastors to set up a process where they maintian some say in the function of their church by creating a position of Bishop in the church bylaws before turning over to a new "Sr. Pastor"

the trend seems to be that the old pastor (new Bishop) will not have a part in day to day operations. but my have some roll on a church board, or in the even that the newly elected pastor leaves the assymbly, the Bishop can direct the search for a new Sr. Pastor.

other that this addition, I agree with tbpew.