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Old 02-13-2007, 12:31 AM
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IF that is true....if that is really true then perhaps the REAL reason the Apostolic churchs that do TV aren't thriving have nothing to do with TV but doctrine?

I mean...who not the same thing with newspaper? Tracts? Radio? Internet?

If truth is our strength then why would it HINDER us to spread the truth on TV just as we are via radio and internet?

There is a HUGE missing link here you guys are making...a huge leap in logic
I really don't think so. The key reason, in my opinion, is that most television stations wouldn't allow strong doctrinal preaching anyway. I can't see one lasting very long that preached any kind of real absolutes either in doctrine or separation.

I stand by truth, when genuinely promoted, being a totally different dynamic.

In either case, I fear that time may be the great 'revealer'.
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Old 02-13-2007, 12:35 AM
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I really don't think so. The key reason, in my opinion, is that most television stations wouldn't allow strong doctrinal preaching anyway. I can't see one lasting very long that preached any kind of real absolutes either in doctrine or separation.

I stand by truth, when genuinely promoted, being a totally different dynamic.

In either case, I fear that time may be the great 'revealer'.
That doesn't necessarily signal the downfall of a church or organization. You can use it to get them through the door then preach everything in a regular service.

You never see any of these guys doing that either..I suppose if we booked a spot on daystar we can preach against Homosexuals etc etc.....
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Old 02-13-2007, 04:33 AM
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I think that if we are going to look at what the effect tv is having on Apostolics, we need to, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, look at other Apostolics. Therefore, Jakes and the AOG would not be ones we should look at.
This is where many APOSTOLICS go wrong...thinking they have a monopoly on God and the truth. We Apostolics have copied the Baptist's in bus ministry, followed the other organizations in missions, home missions, and fund raising...we lag behind and follow others.

If Apostolics are to lead...they have to get out there where the people are and reap the harvest. If you think the world needs what we have then get out there through the use of media and get it going...stop being the follower and be the leader! Stop being the tail and be the head. Stop being the last and be the first. Get with the program!

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Old 02-13-2007, 03:07 PM
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This is where many APOSTOLICS go wrong...thinking they have a monopoly on God and the truth. We Apostolics have copied the Baptist's in bus ministry, followed the other organizations in missions, home missions, and fund raising...we lag behind and follow others.

If Apostolics are to lead...they have to get out there where the people are and reap the harvest. If you think the world needs what we have then get out there through the use of media and get it going...stop being the follower and be the leader! Stop being the tail and be the head. Stop being the last and be the first. Get with the program!

Blessings, Rhoni

To late to "lead" in the tv campaign. The Assemblies of Gods, and the rest of the charismaniacs have already beat us to the finish line.
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Old 02-13-2007, 04:14 PM
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My observations are if the tv ban has hindered growth the tv allowance hasn't worked for the ALJC either as an organization or in their churches.
Everyone seems to ignore this fact. If TV is the answer why isn't the ALJC outpacing the UPC. Why don't they have many large mega churches?
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:52 PM
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Everyone seems to ignore this fact. If TV is the answer why isn't the ALJC outpacing the UPC. Why don't they have many large mega churches?


Incompetent Leadership?
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:58 PM
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Everyone seems to ignore this fact. If TV is the answer why isn't the ALJC outpacing the UPC. Why don't they have many large mega churches?
I tend to agree with you on this one... the question was basically asked, "If TV is the answer why isn't the ALJC as a movment growing?"

I find it interesting, if not revealing, that there are no 'takers' on this one.
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:59 PM
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Incompetent Leadership?
Their leaders seem to be fine, upstanding men. I know most of them.

Has to be something else.
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:59 PM
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Their leaders seem to be fine, upstanding men. I know most of them.

Has to be something else.


Thanks.
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:25 PM
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I tend to agree with you on this one... the question was basically asked, "If TV is the answer why isn't the ALJC as a movment growing?"

I find it interesting, if not revealing, that there are no 'takers' on this one.
Funny isn't it, that there are no takers?

If TV is the answer why isn't the ALJC as a movement growing?
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