ok, thanks.
Well it does seem like the church might need some good legal minds.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
I am not sure. But remember Moses ran away after killing a man, probably to escape punishment. Of course back then they had the eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. And it might follow that thieves had their hands cut off, and killers probably were killed.
But they also had safe cities for criminals to run to where they couldn't be punished or killed. If they made it they were safe, if not I guess they had some type of punishment system in place for them.
The cities of refuge were not for criminals. When a man had killed someone, the kin of the one killed death could and would be avenged the death even if it were an accident. So a man could run to a city of refuge and make his case before the rulers of that city. If the death was accidental, he could stay and be safe, but if he went out, his life could be taken by the avenger. The only time he could leave was when the high priest that was in office when he went into the city died.
kind of parallels us running to the Kingdom of God because the sentence of death is on our lives for sin. Once we enter in we can not leave and expect to be safe, as our High Priest will never die!
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The cities of refuge were not for criminals. When a man had killed someone, the kin of the one killed death could and would be avenged the death even if it were an accident. So a man could run to a city of refuge and make his case before the rulers of that city. If the death was accidental, he could stay and be safe, but if he went out, his life could be taken by the avenger. The only time he could leave was when the high priest that was in office when he went into the city died.
kind of parallels us running to the Kingdom of God because the sentence of death is on our lives for sin. Once we enter in we can not leave and expect to be safe, as our High Priest will never die!
Thank you Rev. I knew I had read something about that and sorry I misquoted scripture. But it is kind of what I meant, there was some refuge offered and safety if he stayed in the city.
And Amen, it sure does and thank God for our refuge and High Priest, Jesus.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
In old England for instance, all felonies where death penalty offenses. Be they murder or killing the king's deer.
In US jurisprudence, a death penalty can only occur in the case of a murder, with special circumstances. All murders are not created equal.
There are those who apparently wish to argue the theory of the death penalty, but simply refuse to acknowledge the inherent weaknesses of the system of jurisprudence which applies it. Particularly in Texas.
The state sponsored death of a single innocent person is an abomination.
To go against God's law is not wise at all. You would seem, I could be wrong, to have a problem with the death penalty as described in Scripture.
As long as there are humans there will be weakness. That in no way nullifies the proper use of the law.
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One of the reasons I would support the Death Penalty in Texas.
Police Say Man Killed, Cooked Woman
By PAUL J. WEBER,AP
Posted: 2008-01-07 07:06:57
Filed Under: Crime News
TYLER, Texas (Jan. 7) - Deputies responding to a 911 call in this East Texas town found a gruesome scene: a human ear boiling in a pot on a stovetop and a hunk of flesh impaled on a fork sitting atop a plate on the kitchen table.
Authorities believe that the man arrested in the death of his 21-year-old girlfriend cooked parts of her body and may have tried to eat them — actions he described to them in the emergency call that led them to the grisly discovery.......
I have come to the conclusin that God can mete out better or more punishment than man. The death penalty seems to just get them there sooner. I have even had an idea of how prisons should be, not practical, but anyway. I guess they put all the violent inmates in one block or whatever they call it. Doesn't make sense to me if they are violent outside won't they be more violent when they are all together? As like calls to like. My idea for child molestors is that they should never get out of prison, castrated or not. Same goes for rapists. I mean rightly convicted inmates. As this thread was started about a man wrongly convicted of rape I assume JG wanted to make his opinion known about the Texas justice system, and the death penalty. As we seem to have a lot of inmates on death row. I think Florida is close to if not equal with Texas in this regard. And we hear time and time again most inmates refuse to admit guilt of a crime. So if an inmate is really innocent no one wants to hear it. It's just the same old same old. Hooray for technology, DNA, and other evidence gathering tools. But the labs are only as good as the people that work there.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Couldn't the same case be made for the punishment of any crime?? Because there are those who are falsely condemned of all crimes, we shouldn't punish anybody??
So what?? The death penalty curbs crime. It's a fact. For those who disagree...the perpetrator who is executed...does it curb his crime??
Where is the abdication of the death penalty commandment in the NT??
You better thank God for the death penalty...without it there would be no propitiation. (ironic isn't it?)
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One of the reasons I would support the Death Penalty in Texas.
Police Say Man Killed, Cooked Woman
By PAUL J. WEBER,AP
Posted: 2008-01-07 07:06:57
Filed Under: Crime News
TYLER, Texas (Jan. 7) - Deputies responding to a 911 call in this East Texas town found a gruesome scene: a human ear boiling in a pot on a stovetop and a hunk of flesh impaled on a fork sitting atop a plate on the kitchen table.
Authorities believe that the man arrested in the death of his 21-year-old girlfriend cooked parts of her body and may have tried to eat them — actions he described to them in the emergency call that led them to the grisly discovery.......
Would be nice if life were full of pat answers. :-) Let's execute based on a newspaper article.
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