*BREAKING*Tulsa gathering beginning to unravel!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

This post is extreeeeeemely insightful. Man, gathered a unique point of view from this post. What would we do without our lurkers and newbies spouting these sage words of wisdom?


As was stated before, how is this Tulsa meeting coming apart at the seams? It has been stated that this is an introductory meeting. It is on fragile egg shells as it is as most of the men prospecting that they will visit the meeting have made it clear that they will not be part of a protest movement.

There has to be SOME structure, what's wrong with setting a foundation of men for this org to be built upon? For the sake of gossip and the opportunity to attack a group of preachers, this fledgling fellowship sure has brought out a lot of uninformed ignorant people spouting their babblings...er...views

You have read a few other posts I hope saying that there are names on the list of men that haven't committed to being a part of Tulsa, right?

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

You have read a few other posts I hope saying that there are names on the list of men that haven't committed to being a part of Tulsa, right?

Of course. One name was added within the last 24hrs. who personally told me he had been asked and was not added until then. So, who's to say who has been asked and who has not been asked?

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Of course. One name was added within the last 24hrs. who personally told me he had been asked and was not added until then. So, who's to say who has been asked and who has not been asked?

Well, there have been a few posters that have spoken directly to some on the list that said they aren't even going to Tulsa. I guess time will tell.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

This post is extreeeeeemely insightful. Man, gathered a unique point of view from this post. What would we do without our lurkers and newbies spouting these sage words of wisdom?


As was stated before, how is this Tulsa meeting coming apart at the seams? It has been stated that this is an introductory meeting. It is on fragile egg shells as it is as most of the men prospecting that they will visit the meeting have made it clear that they will not be part of a protest movement.

There has to be SOME structure, what's wrong with setting a foundation of men for this org to be built upon? For the sake of gossip and the opportunity to attack a group of preachers, this fledgling fellowship sure has brought out a lot of uninformed ignorant people spouting their babblings...er...views

Some have been predicting this kind of separation for a number of years now.

However, I believe that whatever happens and whatever develops will not have the strength of the original merger and what developed from that; namely, the UPCI.

It will be interesting to see what happens. What is built on the Rock will stand. What is built on 'sand' will be less than secure or stable for sure.

There are divine moves of God that fit into His overall will and purpose. I totally and fully believe in the sovereignty of God. Nothing happens except by and according to His design and plan that was set in motion before time began.

So it could be that this new Tulsa thing could be part of God's plan to achieve some end or purpose that you and I aren't fully aware of at this point. OR ... it might could be the will and plan of a group of men motivated by less than pure motive and unction of the Holy Ghost.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Thad

Old style pentecost? when i think of OTP, i think of singing old songs out of hymanl, brush harbor style services, and of course, old fashioned attire.


and don't some some of them believe in technology?(not TV of course)but other forms of it

Here is old style Pentecost

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Let me state that my understanding is that the "list", as well as the website, was not going to be opened up until a later date. So It could be that an initial list was made with the intent on verifying the names, and changing them if need be, PRIOR to opening the site.

Bumping this.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Some have been predicting this kind of separation for a number of years now.

However, I believe that whatever happens and whatever develops will not have the strength of the original merger and what developed from that; namely, the UPCI.

It will be interesting to see what happens. What is built on the Rock will stand. What is built on 'sand' will be less than secure or stable for sure.

There are divine moves of God that fit into his overall will and purpose. I totally and fully believe in the sovereignty of God. Nothing happens except by and according to His design and plan that was set in motion before time began.

So it could be that this new Tulsa thing could be part of God's plan to achieve some end or purpose that you and I aren't fully aware of at this point. OR ... it might could be the will and plan of a group of men motivated by less than pure motive and unction of the Holy Ghost.

Now, Sis, THIS is the insight that is needed here in this thread. Exactly, this fellowship could be a tool to be used by God for some purpose. The UPCI has gone through several phases since its inception and is not exactly what it was when it was formed.

Is the opposite possible? Possibly but there has been plenty of conjecture that this is the case and so the point you mentioned above should get more press. Sadly, here, I don't think it will.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Bumping this.

Right, Matt.

A lot has been said in the 49 elders thread that this is a fluid list. WELL OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO BE FLUID! The first public introductory meeting hasn't even taken place.

More people here should study up on business and organizational formation.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Let me state that my understanding is that the "list", as well as the website, was not going to be opened up until a later date. So It could be that an initial list was made with the intent on verifying the names, and changing them if need be, PRIOR to opening the site.

I can understand that, but the site wasn't opened by mistake, so they had time to say, hey should we not post the list until we heard from everyone?

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Of course. One name was added within the last 24hrs. who personally told me he had been asked and was not added until then. So, who's to say who has been asked and who has not been asked?

The point regarding names of ministers on the list that have not been asked or verified-has been made by other posters on another thread.

This information was already brought up, this is not new information that has not already been discussed.

Perhaps you were unaware that it's already been talked about on other threads.