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Old 03-08-2007, 02:15 PM
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The simplest explanation (vis a vis Occam's Razor) is they were in the house where the last supper took place.

There is no mention of them being in any other house during their stay in Jerusalem.

They entered Jerusalem originally with Jesus - where some had gone before and found lodging for them to eat the Last Supper.

It is plausible this was a house belonging to an (unnamed) disciple.

This disciple would undoubtedly have been among those who were to "tarry at Jerusalem".

Ergo, they tarried at Jerusalem - in this person's house as a place of temporary residence.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:19 PM
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Not sure why but I thought and heard it preached the "house" was adjacent to the temple.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:27 PM
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The simplest explanation (vis a vis Occam's Razor) is they were in the house where the last supper took place.

There is no mention of them being in any other house during their stay in Jerusalem.

They entered Jerusalem originally with Jesus - where some had gone before and found lodging for them to eat the Last Supper.

It is plausible this was a house belonging to an (unnamed) disciple.

This disciple would undoubtedly have been among those who were to "tarry at Jerusalem".

Ergo, they tarried at Jerusalem - in this person's house as a place of temporary residence.
I think that the very best anyone could hope for as far as knowing where they were on the day of pentecost is that it is a possibility that it was the same place they were in a week earlier.

The Holy Ghost wasn't going to fall at a particular address. They only had to tarry at Jerusalem. They very well could have waited the whole week in one house... they very well could have been at different peoples houses at different times during that week.

No one knows.

It appears that the most one can say is that it is possible that they were in the same house they were in when they first returned to Jerusalem. But when the Holy Ghost fell.... even if they were in the same house... they may not have been in the upper room of the house anyway.

We haven't near enough evidence to say that the Holy Ghost was poured out in the same house much less the upper room of the same house.

We just cannot honestly know.


Leaving it there shouldn't be problematic.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:40 PM
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"Let us speak where the Bible speaks, and be silent where the Bible is silent."

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Old 03-08-2007, 02:42 PM
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"Let us speak where the Bible speaks, and be silent where the Bible is silent."

I'm pretty sure that's what I just said.
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I read somewhere that the "upper room" was the same place where the Lord broke bread with His disciples before He was crucified. Don't know if that is true or not, or where I read it, but it is plausible. They were, I believe, strangers in the city and it would seem possible that, once the house was secured for the Last Supper, they remained there in Jerusalem for the trial, death, burial, and resuurection of the Lord. Afterwards, He advised them to remain in Jerusalem for the Promise of the Holy Spirit. It would seem, with many people visiting Jerusalem for the the Passover and Pentecost observances, that housing would be hard to find. So, they could have stayed in Jerusalem to await the Promise of the Holy Ghost. It wasn't until AFTER the Holy Ghost was given that we find them visiting the temple.
Uh, no.

Luke 24:52-53
"And they worshipped him, amd returned to Jerusalem with great joy: and were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.
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While this may never be resolved, I have appreciated all the input.
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