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Old 12-03-2007, 12:53 PM
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Ho-hum, just another day in the new age of information control.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:54 PM
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Ho-hum, just another day in the new age of information control.
Whuzup witchur site?? New??
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:55 PM
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:02 PM
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I'm not interested in what goes on at CAF,I am not a member so it's none of my business.
But brethren we don't need to worry about Satan fighting the church when we devour one another.
Is Brotherly kindness a thing of the past ?
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:05 PM
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This from the guy that said he wasnt a cynic. Seriously my brother you need to let it go.
Ferd, I know we may have gotten off on the wrong foot...anyway, what I mean is this. When you write positional papers, you are not free to change your mind. People read those years later and still tie you to your position.

As we age, we wisen up, or at least we should (lol) and in the UPCI or any other organization that demands performance and a certain level of expectation, you are not free to change your mind publicly. Many do change their mind, but are not free to express it. This creates a double self or a false image. This is how hypocrisy is created.

I know of which I speak. I have been in the ministry over 20+ years and have seen many people want to change, but could not for fear. The mindset is this; "if it was wrong before, it should still be wrong now". The dynamics needed to be publicly accepted are much greater.

When you pastor, and take certain positions, the people expect you to abide by those positions. If you change your mind, you risk loosing credibility. Most pastors suffer in silence, not wanting to return to the past and admit failure. Pride keeps us from admitting wrong or even our mis-education. IT TAKES TREMENDOUS COURAGE TO BE EXISTENTIALLY RESPONSIBLE.

My post was observational of DB's behavior to criticism. Even though I thought the criticism was insane and unmerited personally, he felt a need to defend. When this occurs, from a human behavioral standpoint, there is insecurity involved. Insecurity comes from instability, instability from trying to reconcile mixed messages. This occurs during our formative years. In DB's case, he has been writing since his youth. Psychologist tell us to discount everything a man does until age 30. The brain does not fully develop until the mid-twenties.

DB is a good man, but has had to defend his position to great scholarly minds. His positions at times have been wrong and he knows it in his heart. The way we act is like this; Instead of admitting someone else may know more than we do, we defend until we die, even though we know deep deep down in the secret crevices of our heart that we are wrong. Pride won't let us admit it.

That's what David referred to in his repentance before the Lord...thou desirest truth in the inward part and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:06 PM
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SecretWarrior> I believe this accusation was started with Caston Smith and Reckart.

You DO realize CAF has a zero tolerance policy for reposting verbatim postings on other boards?

We also kinda frown on portraying other boards in a negative way.

This requires review at lunchtime when I have the time.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:07 PM
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Are you suggesting that, if fact, DB does not believe what he just wrote? I think that would be inaccurate.
No; I was merely referring to that fact that if this is an authentic document, insecurity is at the heart of defense. Please read my post to Ferd. Thanks
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:08 PM
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Well for one I don't think he wrote it, but if he did he was wrong.

NO, I know that Keith But it's his forum and you are referring to the minister's that participate on his forum.
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Well hey if this come froms CR the only guy that is saved to him is the one he sees in his mirror.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:11 PM
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Can I say this ?from what I have seen of the brother that runs CAF ,he seems to be a man of integrity and not one to degrade or demean people.
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