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11-29-2007, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzyde
I don't know what Joel Osteen preaches/talks about in his crusades, but I receive his daily devotional e-mails, and they are not ambiguous regarding God or the Bible. They start with a verse and follow with a thought that always refers to God multiple times. So I am a little confused about all the criticism regarding his approach.
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His e-devotions might be chock full of the Word ... yet when I hear him preach on TV ... I go hungry.
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11-29-2007, 12:40 PM
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Lord, I need a pair of crocodile shoes.!!!
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11-29-2007, 12:59 PM
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I will tell you what, If he has 48,000 people and only $43 million a year comming in from the church family... He is not a very good prosperity preacher...
Of course I think the 48,000 is evangelistically speaking...
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11-29-2007, 02:12 PM
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Follow he money it's there.
His ministry buys enough books when it first come out to put the book on the New York times best sellers list.
Then the rest of the public buys it because they think it is a good book.
Follow the money he has it!
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11-29-2007, 02:44 PM
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Me and my sister Terri
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
Follow he money it's there.
His ministry buys enough books when it first come out to put the book on the New York times best sellers list.
Then the rest of the public buys it because they think it is a good book.
Follow the money he has it!
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this practice is not justwith christian books but with many books, very common.
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11-29-2007, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzyde
I don't know what Joel Osteen preaches/talks about in his crusades, but I receive his daily devotional e-mails, and they are not ambiguous regarding God or the Bible. They start with a verse and follow with a thought that always refers to God multiple times. So I am a little confused about all the criticism regarding his approach.
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Hey Diz, when you are out front you are a target. What folks on this forum judge JO on is what they see from a long way off, they DO NOT have the complete picture. His TV ministry is for getting the attention of screwed up human beings who are beat up on every turn. If a person can get a healthy view of who they are as a person, then they can grow, until then they are just another piece of the mindless masses, perishing and wasting away. Let God speak to you from those devotions, the Holy Spirit will help you to separate the precious from the vile.
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11-29-2007, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Hey Diz, when you are out front you are a target. What folks on this forum judge JO on is what they see from a long way off, they DO NOT have the complete picture. His TV ministry is for getting the attention of screwed up human beings who are beat up on every turn. If a person can get a healthy view of who they are as a person, then they can grow, until then they are just another piece of the mindless masses, perishing and wasting away. Let God speak to you from those devotions, the Holy Spirit will help you to separate the precious from the vile.
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I agree that Diz should let the scripture inspire her and the Holy Ghost will guide...
But is me thinking I am ok in my sin and that God will bless me in my sin a healthy view of myself?
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11-29-2007, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Hey Diz, when you are out front you are a target. What folks on this forum judge JO on is what they see from a long way off, they DO NOT have the complete picture. His TV ministry is for getting the attention of screwed up human beings who are beat up on every turn. If a person can get a healthy view of who they are as a person, then they can grow, until then they are just another piece of the mindless masses, perishing and wasting away. Let God speak to you from those devotions, the Holy Spirit will help you to separate the precious from the vile.
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I had the same thought about this, that the TV stuff is to get people to take a look at their lives, and then the meatier stuff can follow.
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Originally Posted by Pastor G
I agree that Diz should let the scripture inspire her and the Holy Ghost will guide...
But is me thinking I am ok in my sin and that God will bless me in my sin a healthy view of myself?
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I'm going to assume that you aren't referring to me specifically?
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11-29-2007, 03:16 PM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Pastor G
I agree that Diz should let the scripture inspire her and the Holy Ghost will guide...
But is me thinking I am ok in my sin and that God will bless me in my sin a healthy view of myself?
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No, but coming to spiritual maturity is a process, not a instantaneous occurrence.
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11-29-2007, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzyde
I had the same thought about this, that the TV stuff is to get people to take a look at their lives, and then the meatier stuff can follow.
I'm going to assume that you aren't referring to me specifically?
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Oh no, sorry if it sounded that way...
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