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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

He IS the Only God I serve and he does not tell me in his word that I will not make the kingdom if I wear my hair down!!!

Neither do we. Are you a member of Brewton Apostolic Church? If not then this wearing your hair up doesn't apply to you.

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

We wouldn't say nothing derogetory about you, but if you really had a Christian spirit like you claim ... you wouldn't want to do anything to put a question mark on yourself or offend those in leadership.

1 Corinthians 8:12-13 (King James Version)
12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

So if your pastor told you that MEN had to have uncut hair & wear it up in a bun would you do it so that you wouldn't be sinning against the brethren?

[nahkoe]

If my wearing my hair down causes my pastor to sin..my pastor has problems of the nature he should be stepping down and putting himself under another pastor.

And that is what the word "offend" means in this passage. I'm getting the idea that you have no idea how to actually study the Word, or keep it in context.

This passage you're using to justify your strict man made standards is a passage referrring to eating meat that has been sacrified to idols. The church is being instructed that eating this meat is not sin, but there are those among the church who have left the worship of those idols behind. If eating that meat would in any way cause them to stumble and go back to their former ways, and another Christian knowing the struggle they faced, ate that meat around them, THAT is a sin.

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

We wouldn't say nothing derogetory about you, but if you really had a Christian spirit like you claim ... you wouldn't want to do anything to put a question mark on yourself or offend those in leadership.

1 Corinthians 8:12-13 (King James Version)
12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

I've preached in liberals churches before, but I didn't get up and preach standards or anything of that nature. I've preached for pastors who have TVs in their homes, and they know my stand on TV. This is something you should practice Sister ... learn to use strategy Sis. when dealing with people ...

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

I love preaching in churches where people don't measure up. NO I don't pick my sermon based on them, but if your a conservative church an no women there has bobbed haird then your not growing and have ceased to have a reason to exist.

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

I don't believe anyone would have said anything to you, especially my Pastor ... while he may be conservative in his views, he is a very well balanced man and is not swift to assume the worse about people.

We have new converts in our church, and some of them doesn't look exactly like a "seasoned saint" (if you will) ... Don't take me wrong our church doesn't shun those who don't understand the Holiness standards. We have several young ladies in our church who came to the Lord within the last year or so, who before cut their hair, and things of this sort, but within a years time their hair hasn't grown to the length of some of our other ladies, but at any rate our women doesn't wear their hair down ... So you can't really tell the length of it.

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

You must not be listening close enough......

LOL Why? It's post here or do Spanish. Or anymore (it's due in 3 hours) post here while doing Spanish.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

We wouldn't say nothing derogatory about you, but if you really had a Christian spirit like you claim ... you wouldn't want to do anything to put a question mark on yourself or offend those in leadership.

1 Corinthians 8:12-13 (King James Version)
12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

The one being "offended" is the "weaker" of the brothers. It should not be our goal to be weaker, but to become stronger. We need to grow beyond the place where another church's "bobbed hair" or televisions offends us.

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

I've preached in liberals churches before, but I didn't get up and preach standards or anything of that nature. I've preached for pastors who have TVs in their homes, and they know my stand on TV. This is something you should practice Sister ... learn to use strategy Sis. when dealing with people ...

I've heard so-called "conservatives" and "ultraconservatives" use similar statements. What do you mean? Are you suggesting that we be "false" at times, or just politically correct and go with the flow?

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

Which statement?

This one...

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

If they don't adhere to the standards taught in our church, then they are subject to open rebellion against the Pastor, and Jesus said that is as of the sin of witchcraft.

Samuel said to Saul that "rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft..." Just a technicality.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

If my wearing my hair down causes my pastor to sin..my pastor has problems of the nature he should be stepping down and putting himself under another pastor.

And that is what the word "offend" means in this passage. I'm getting the idea that you have no idea how to actually study the Word, or keep it in context.

This passage you're using to justify your strict man made standards is a passage referrring to eating meat that has been sacrified to idols. The church is being instructed that eating this meat is not sin, but there are those among the church who have left the worship of those idols behind. If eating that meat would in any way cause them to stumble and go back to their former ways, and another Christian knowing the struggle they faced, ate that meat around them, THAT is a sin.

Stop it - stop it right now - - no making sense by revealing with the scripture REALLY means!

[ILG]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

If my wearing my hair down causes my pastor to sin..my pastor has problems of the nature he should be stepping down and putting himself under another pastor.

And that is what the word "offend" means in this passage. I'm getting the idea that you have no idea how to actually study the Word, or keep it in context.

This passage you're using to justify your strict man made standards is a passage referrring to eating meat that has been sacrified to idols. The church is being instructed that eating this meat is not sin, but there are those among the church who have left the worship of those idols behind. If eating that meat would in any way cause them to stumble and go back to their former ways, and another Christian knowing the struggle they faced, ate that meat around them, THAT is a sin.

I wore my hair down the WHOLE TIME I was UPC.

Originally Posted by Forgiven

So if your pastor told you that MEN had to have uncut hair & wear it up in a bun would you do it so that you wouldn't be sinning against the brethren?

My Pastor wouldn't do that because he has the Holy Ghost. Psalm 37:23
The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.

And the scripture is plain with long haired men.

... there's an old song we sing sometimes one of the verses to it is "Welllllllll, you can't get to heaven you long haired men, there ain't no place to get a trim, you oughta been Holiness a long time ago ... drinking of the wine!

Chorus: Drinking of the wine, wine, wine, drinking of the wine, the Holy Ghost wine. You oughta been Holiness a long time ago ... drinking of the wine!"

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

My Pastor wouldn't do that because he has the Holy Ghost. Psalm 37:23
The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.

And the scripture is plain with long haired men.

... there's an old song we sing sometimes one of the verses to it is "Welllllllll, you can't get to heaven you long haired men, there ain't no place to get a trim, you oughta been Holiness a long time ago ... drinking of the wine!

Chorus: Drinking of the wine, wine, wine, drinking of the wine, the Holy Ghost wine. You oughta been Holiness a long time ago ... drinking of the wine!"

Oh, it just keeps getting better!