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[TGBTG]

Continuing -

Now, the question is - Has the prophecy of Jer 31:31-34 been fulfilled or is it to be fulfilled in the future?

Let's go through Heb 8

1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.

4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

v1-6 summarizes what was discussed in Heb 1-7. Those chapters compared Moses to Jesus and compared the covenant established through Moses to the covenant established through Christ.
v1-6 is telling us about TWO covenants. One covenant established through Moses and the other covenant established through Christ

Do you agree that Heb 1-7 was comparing the covenant established through Moses to the covenant established through Christ at the cross of calvary?

[TGBTG]

Continuing -

Now, let's look at Heb 8:7
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

What is the FIRST COVENANT being referred to here?
What is the SECOND COVENANT being referred to here?

The previous verses and chapters already told us that the FIRST COVENANT was the one established through Moses and the SECOND COVENANT was the one established through Christ.

Where was the FIRST COVENANT established? - On Mount Sinai
Where was the SECOND COVENANT established? - At the cross of Calvary

Do you agree that the first and second covenant referred to in verse 7 are the covenants established through Moses and Christ respectively?

Verse 7 goes on to say that the FIRST covenant had fault, which is why the SECOND covenant was put in place.
Do you agree that the SECOND covenant established through Christ replaces the FIRST covenant established through Moses?

[TGBTG]

Continuing -

Now, let's look at Heb 8:8-13
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Verse 8 is telling us that the FIRST covenant was replaced with the SECOND covenant because the FIRST covenant had fault. The writer of Hebrews uses the prophecy of Jer 31:31 to support his point.

Notice verse 8 started with "For finding fault with them..." In other words, because the FIRST COVENANT had fault, it was replaced with the SECOND COVENANT and the writer of Hebrews is saying Jer 31:31-34 is the supporting scripture to show that the SECOND COVENANT established through Christ is the fulfillment of the prophecy given in Jer 31:31-34

Verse 9-12 is the prophecy from Jer 31:31-34

Verse 13 then says because the SECOND COVENANT was referred to as a NEW covenant, the FIRST covenant was made obsolete.

Summary -
Jer 31:31-34 is a prophecy about a new covenant
Heb 8 says the covenant established through Christ is the fulfillment of Jer 31:31-34

[TGBTG]

The new covenant of Jer 31:31-34 was established through Christ with Israel. Gentiles were grafted into the covenant God made with Israel.

Interesting that the early church thought the NEW COVENANT was for national Israel only till God showed them he was grafting in gentiles as well as shown in Acts.

Acts 11
1 And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.
2 And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him,
3 Saying, Thou wentest in to men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them.
4 But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order unto them, saying,
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15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
19 Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.

Rom 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Gospel (NEW COVENANT) is to the Jew first...

Rom 11
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
Some (NOT ALL) branches were broken off to graft in gentiles

Eph 2
12 That at that time ye (gentiles) were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Gentiles are partaking of the COMMONWEALTH of Israel because they have been grafted into the NEW COVENANT God made with Israel

And of course, the whole book of Galatians expounds and confirms this.

[Amanah]

thank you TGBTG for writing this up.

[TGBTG]

Sean,
Just for good measure. Here's 2 Cor 3 saying the same thing that the writer of hebrews said:

5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
(Paul was a minister of the NEW COVENANT)

7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
(Compare to Heb 12:20-22)

8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
(Compare to Heb 8:13 What was done away with?, think you should know that by now.)

12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:

13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
(The blindness is removed ergo Rom 11:25, when they turn to Christ)

17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

There will NOT be another NEW COVENANT for Israel. It's already been done.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

thank you TGBTG for writing this up.

Yes, his Kung Fu is very good

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

There will NOT be another NEW COVENANT for Israel. It's already been done.

Amen, because if there was yet another it would need the death of another testator.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

You keep retorting with "future national Israel" and "replacement theology", which are typical responses from dispensationalists. Been there, done that...

I don't know if you will get convinced by my response to you because:

1. As a previous subscriber to God having a "separate plan for the church & Israel" myself, I know that your reading of scriptures is already marred with the theology. Thus, you already have on the "dispensational" lenses on when reading old testament scriptures

2. Cognitive dissonance kicks in and you'll either rationalize and interpret scripture in such a way to maintain your belief OR re-read scripture and come to a different conclusion.

Having said that, I'll elaborate per your request.
Please, respond to the "Do you agree" interjections included in my write-up.

First, starting with Jer 31:31-34

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

I believe one thing that needs to be established is that Jer 31:31-34 was a prophecy to Israel. In other words, the new covenant Jeremiah spoke of would be fulfilled at a time future from Jeremiah's period.
Do you agree with this conclusion?

Yes.

All of Israel will be saved and all of the inhabitants will know Jesus from the least to the greatest(every human in Israel will be saved), and they will cease from even witnessing to each other to know the Lord during this time.

It will be an amazing time in history, because proselytizing will completely cease, by the command of Christ.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

The new covenant of Jer 31:31-34 was established through Christ with Israel. Gentiles were grafted into the covenant God made with Israel.

Interesting that the early church thought the NEW COVENANT was for national Israel only till God showed them he was grafting in gentiles as well as shown in Acts.

Acts 11
1 And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.
2 And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him,
3 Saying, Thou wentest in to men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them.
4 But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order unto them, saying,
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15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
19 Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.

Rom 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Gospel (NEW COVENANT) is to the Jew first...

Rom 11
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
Some (NOT ALL) branches were broken off to graft in gentiles

Eph 2
12 That at that time ye (gentiles) were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Gentiles are partaking of the COMMONWEALTH of Israel because they have been grafted into the NEW COVENANT God made with Israel

And of course, the whole book of Galatians expounds and confirms this.

If Jer 31 was fulfilled in its entirety, then it is a false promise.

Only a remnant of Israel was saved in the 1st century, and Jer 31 says all will know Him from the least to the greatest.

If Jer 31 was fulfilled in the 1st century, then it is also a false promise because the Jewish Christians in the 1st century continued witnessing and spreading the gospel to "know the Lord".




The fact is, the writer of Hebrews only attributes 2 verses of Jer 31 to the 1st century church in Hebrews 10.....




Hebrews 10:15-17King James Version (KJV)
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.




Did you see who the writer of Hebrews is addressing, concerning Jer 31?


Did the writer include the rest of the passage for us?

Do you see our inclusion into THEIR future promise yet?