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08-08-2011, 01:50 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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Originally Posted by Aquila
If one's salvation isn't based on that interpretation of a principle, I see nothing seriously wrong with it. I just stand against being brought under law.
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Nowhere in the NT is the Levitical Law re-established for the Church. Paul goes out of his way to make that abundantly clear.
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08-08-2011, 01:51 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
I have a question relating to this subject. So should farmers give of the first harvest, ranchers first calf, etc. As most of us work for actual money, what should we give of if not our money?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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08-08-2011, 01:53 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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Do y'all want to finish a discussion or debate banning? This is starting to seem like a political thread. Stop the finger pointing, name calling, and blame game.
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I apologize for name calling.
I will admit I become a little irritated when someone claims something without presenting any scriptural proof.
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08-08-2011, 01:54 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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Originally Posted by Aquila
While I do believe a believer should given generously as God has prospered them, I don't believe that ties directly to the tithe. For gentile believers it would have to be spelled out rather clearly that they were expected to give 10% per the OT.
With regards to Scripture it's important to note that even the Gospels depict events that took place under the Law. Jesus even advocated that a healed lepper present the purification offering at the temple. Not to mention many other things pertaining to the Law. Christ fulfilled the Law, nailed it to the cross, and set us free to partake in His nature... a holiness that comes by faith and is far higher than any law, rule, or regulation can bring us.
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(Meant as humor) "Expected to give" AND expected to be cheerful about it. Now pay up!
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08-08-2011, 01:55 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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So, why did Jesus tell the leper to present a purification offering?
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Maybe as a witness? Plus they were still under the law.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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08-08-2011, 01:58 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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Maybe as a witness? Plus they were still under the law.
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Thank you, as Jesus had not yet been crucified and risen.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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08-08-2011, 02:00 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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Originally Posted by HRea
(Meant as humor) "Expected to give" AND expected to be cheerful about it. Now pay up!
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lol
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08-08-2011, 02:04 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder
I apologize for name calling.
I will admit I become a little irritated when someone claims something without presenting any scriptural proof.
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Okay, I know what you mean. I use to give Admin trouble myself, before I became one. I repented and was forgiven.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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08-08-2011, 02:04 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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Originally Posted by Cindy
I have a question relating to this subject. So should farmers give of the first harvest, ranchers first calf, etc. As most of us work for actual money, what should we give of if not our money?
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I think that question reflects an incorrect mindset. We are no longer bound by any law. The entire law was nailed to the cross with Christ. We are now under grace and called to be identitified with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection. Through Christ we become the "righteousness of God" apart from the Law. The righteousness of God indicates that we possess a righteousness infinitely higher than any righteousness the Law could ever produce. Being filled with the Spirit, identified with Christ, and having His righteousnss imputed to us, we are sinless, complete, and holy in God's sight through Christ Jesus (not law keeping). And it is through our union with the Spirit that we have become partakers of the divine nature. Thereby birthing a desire to be like Christ.
Now the questions are simple:
What are the needs in your fellowship?
What do you desire to give Jesus? Now give cheerfully (and sacrificially) and watch God bless the work of God, and through God's work and the advancement of the Kingdom you will be blessed.
Last edited by Aquila; 08-08-2011 at 02:10 PM.
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08-08-2011, 02:09 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
Has anyone ever thought about it would have been illegal for Jesus to take tithes since he was of the tribe of Judah and not Levi? That thing about not adding to the law.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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