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View Poll Results: Do you believe and/or teach that standards are heaven or hell issues?
Absolutely. I believe and teach that standards are heaven or hell issues. 11 19.30%
I believe that standards should be followed, but they do not necessarily affect salvation. 10 17.54%
I do not believe standards are salvational, but I teach them in compliance with the organization. 3 5.26%
I do not believe or teach that standards are salvational. 21 36.84%
I teach that standards are matters of consecration, but are not salvational. 11 19.30%
I don't know. 1 1.75%
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:02 AM
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Nah. Still can't stand them rebellious women preachers!
And it hasn't been that long ago when you endorsed women preachers. There will come a day when you will once again 'see the light', repent, and endorse them again!

I still don't get where that topic came from though.....off the top of your head? Surely you aren't running out of things to say...........
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Old 04-20-2007, 02:34 AM
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Tammy Faye said she was so abused in her AG church where they did not believe in make up or women cutting their hair and had to wear dresses. But she got liberated. Who said she is not moderate?????????? I imagine she thinks she is?? Has anyone seen Jan in person??????????? I have she looked like a .................................................. .......... better not say but they come out at night.
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:21 AM
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A double minded man is unstable in all his ways is the scripture that comes to my mind. My son (Willian Price) we all owe a debt to a group of women that were the first testimony of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and who gave it! And that while the (more spiritual?) men sat around in disbelief! Furthermore, let us not forget who commanded her to go and preach, not just the foretelling of future events, but of the past and actual resurrection of our Lord! Go and tell has always been the nearest thing to the heart of our Lord.

Son, be careful about this today I believe this tomorrow I believe that for if you were to really get a revelation from the Lord it would be like the little boy who cried wolf so many times when it was the real thing no one believed him.

I really believe you are sincere but you are unstable how could a woman look up to you as a man that is supposed to lead with all that coming and going you do? I have no problem with male leadership. My husband is a wonderful man of God and a wonderful leader but he is solid like a rock. I trust him when he says that God told him to do something. Ten years ago I moved over 1500 miles from our blood son and some of our other children to the far northeast of Brazil and never one time did I even question him. When he said God said...I started packing.
If I would have had any doubts today they would all be proven that he was right. For right here in the poorest state of Brazil where killing and robbery is the "norm" God has helped us raise up a big headquarters church, lots of daughter works and right now a little after six in the morning here, a group of our brothers are leaving headed to another little close by area where we are building yet another church by faith.

Son, the things you don't understand wait on the Lord. You do not have to jump on the bandwagon to be popular. If you really deep in your heart do not believe in women preachers or whatever you can still be kind to those that differ. It is popular today not to believe in women preachers in a few years it will be something else. Just work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
It is like Christmas some that did not believe in it today celebrate it...some have been on every little thing that comes sweeping the churches...No wonder so many people in the world laugh at Pentecostal people. I have been around quite a few years...I watched some jump for David Terrell, follow after Branham, ladies hair up hair down, just anything to be different.

It is like when a couple of my boys told me, "Mother, we have decided everyone that does not believe in women preachers are going to hell..." I asked them when God had hired them to judge????????????

Don't be swayed by the crowd on any opinion. Pray about things. Be slow to form an opinion leave room for God to show you more light.

I have lived long enough to wish I had not said some rash opinions and ideas...and we usually have to eat our words when we are rash in our decisions.
Well, this is just a mothers advice...I wish you well.
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:50 AM
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Wouldn't that be nice. You reminded me of a time I just didn't know how God could use me. There was a petite, quiet, lovely older women in our church. I told the Lord, "I can never be like her!" He said, "I can use what I've got."

Whew, sweet relief!!

I KNOW the feeling!

I have to add something to my comment about you and Sis. Alvear. I don't have a clue how young she is or how young YOU are, PO. I didn't mean to insinuate that you were younger and she older. But, I get the sense that Sis. Alvear is a bit older. If she's not physically, she sure is spiritually!!


Lord, please help me out of this mess. I should know better than to talk to another woman about her age!!



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Old 04-20-2007, 06:51 AM
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A double minded man is unstable in all his ways is the scripture that comes to my mind. My son (Willian Price) we all owe a debt to a group of women that were the first testimony of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and who gave it! And that while the (more spiritual?) men sat around in disbelief! Furthermore, let us not forget who commanded her to go and preach, not just the foretelling of future events, but of the past and actual resurrection of our Lord! Go and tell has always been the nearest thing to the heart of our Lord.

Son, be careful about this today I believe this tomorrow I believe that for if you were to really get a revelation from the Lord it would be like the little boy who cried wolf so many times when it was the real thing no one believed him.

I really believe you are sincere but you are unstable how could a woman look up to you as a man that is supposed to lead with all that coming and going you do? I have no problem with male leadership. My husband is a wonderful man of God and a wonderful leader but he is solid like a rock. I trust him when he says that God told him to do something. Ten years ago I moved over 1500 miles from our blood son and some of our other children to the far northeast of Brazil and never one time did I even question him. When he said God said...I started packing.
If I would have had any doubts today they would all be proven that he was right. For right here in the poorest state of Brazil where killing and robbery is the "norm" God has helped us raise up a big headquarters church, lots of daughter works and right now a little after six in the morning here, a group of our brothers are leaving headed to another little close by area where we are building yet another church by faith.

Son, the things you don't understand wait on the Lord. You do not have to jump on the bandwagon to be popular. If you really deep in your heart do not believe in women preachers or whatever you can still be kind to those that differ. It is popular today not to believe in women preachers in a few years it will be something else. Just work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
It is like Christmas some that did not believe in it today celebrate it...some have been on every little thing that comes sweeping the churches...No wonder so many people in the world laugh at Pentecostal people. I have been around quite a few years...I watched some jump for David Terrell, follow after Branham, ladies hair up hair down, just anything to be different.

It is like when a couple of my boys told me, "Mother, we have decided everyone that does not believe in women preachers are going to hell..." I asked them when God had hired them to judge????????????

Don't be swayed by the crowd on any opinion. Pray about things. Be slow to form an opinion leave room for God to show you more light.

I have lived long enough to wish I had not said some rash opinions and ideas...and we usually have to eat our words when we are rash in our decisions.
Well, this is just a mothers advice...I wish you well.

Thank God for mothers like you, sister. Words of wisdom.
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Old 04-20-2007, 07:59 AM
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I KNOW the feeling!

I have to add something to my comment about you and Sis. Alvear. I don't have a clue how young she is or how young YOU are, PO. I didn't mean to insinuate that you were younger and she older. But, I get the sense that Sis. Alvear is a bit older. If she's not physically, she sure is spiritually!!


Lord, please help me out of this mess. I should know better than to talk to another woman about her age!!



No problem. I will overlook your insults as to my age and spiritual level.

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Old 04-20-2007, 08:07 AM
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No problem. I will overlook your insults as to my age and spiritual level.

Looks like you reap what you sow, eh? hahaha
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Old 04-20-2007, 08:15 AM
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Looks like you reap what you sow, eh? hahaha
There is that element to consider, hmmmm....

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Old 04-20-2007, 08:46 AM
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I adressed the Quote from Bro. Prince........Epley.


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Yes, I was wrong, but got right. So, why is it that you would defend a man who HATES the UPCI or any standard church or organization, but you would attack me? Possibly an example of a spirit that rejoices in sin and worldliness??? Makes me wonder?
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Coop you are addressing the WRONG guy you are quoting Bro. Price but answering Bro. Prince. Just thought you would want to know?
No I am not.
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Old 04-20-2007, 08:46 AM
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It is like when a couple of my boys told me, "Mother, we have decided everyone that does not believe in women preachers are going to hell..." I asked them when God had hired them to judge????????????

Don't be swayed by the crowd on any opinion. Pray about things. Be slow to form an opinion leave room for God to show you more light.

I have lived long enough to wish I had not said some rash opinions and ideas...and we usually have to eat our words when we are rash in our decisions.
Well, this is just a mothers advice...I wish you well.
I've been thinking about this post since I read it earlier. It is a really refreshing to the spirit to find so much grace and wisdom.
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