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12-11-2008, 09:07 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Charnock
Pastors being too close to laity can lead to all sorts of deviance.
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The laity is evil and corrupting!!!! God have mercy on the poor pastor who is led by the sheep into sin!
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12-11-2008, 09:08 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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It's exaggeration when I do it.
It's lying when someone I don't like does it.
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- now there's an honest man!
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12-11-2008, 09:10 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Anyone can be 100% approachable and still have a private life. But hopefully most of us are not prejudiced against certain members of the body that we divide the body into inferior/superior classes and only choose friends out of the better....if the distinction here was race or color of skin we'd be talking racism
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For Reverend Phelps
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12-11-2008, 09:12 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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He said "if"....then we'd be talking racism.
Read Char - read.
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12-11-2008, 09:12 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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For Reverend Phelps
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He said IF.
He didn't accuse pastors of racism.
We're all prejudiced to some extent, and it doesn't have to be against skin color - it can be against social class, lifestyle, etc.
The point Prax was trying to make, if I interpret his post correctly, is that some pastors consider saints to be in another social class, thereby creating a prejudice.
However, I won't argue that point with you, will you answer my other question?
And by the way, you don't need to call me Rev. Phelps, I'm no longer in the ministry.
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12-11-2008, 09:12 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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So, let me ask you a question. Let's say a saint was done wrong by a pastor.
How should that saint handle such an offense?
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Isn't the answer obvious?
Post about it online.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-11-2008, 09:13 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Anyone can be 100% approachable and still have a private life. But hopefully most of us are not prejudiced against certain members of the body that we divide the body into inferior/superior classes and only choose friends out of the better....if the distinction here was race or color of skin we'd be talking racism
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For Reverend Phelps
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You were taking it out of context.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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12-11-2008, 09:14 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Isn't the answer obvious?
Post about it online.
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Oh, ok, well I appreciate your honesty.
So, if you had a disagreement with a saint, and they felt they had been done wrong by you, you would have no problem with them coming on AFF and airing the entire situation?
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12-11-2008, 09:14 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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He said "if"....then we'd be talking racism.
Read Char - read.
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No no no....he was comparing the situations.
Why even bring up raciism? Prejudice?
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-11-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Oh, ok, well I appreciate your honesty.
So, if you had a disagreement with a saint, and they felt they had been done wrong by you, you would have no problem with them coming on AFF and airing the entire situation?
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What is your point, Brother?
Teach me.
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