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03-19-2007, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OGIA
Funny. I say "no". She asked God to honor her OBEDIENCE, not her uncut hair.
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Without reading anything into her statements, I think we can agree that the story does say "in obedience to Your Word", but that requires ignoring the rest
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Nor did she insinuate that her covering granted her special favor or powers with God.
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This comment simply isn't true. It is obvious from her post that she believes her uncut hair gives her special favor and/or powers with God. You'd have to be reading with your eyes closed not to see that. Come on. When you close your eyes to the facts, you discredit yourself in any discussion. If you can't have an honest discussion, your opinions just won't really hold water. Being honest means acknowledging when your opponents actually have a point. 
The following quote alone shows that she believes her hair is something more than just a sign of her obedience to God:
"My hair is a veil of protection for me and my family. My hair is my glory and power with the angels. "
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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03-19-2007, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OGIA
Funny. I say "no". She asked God to honor her OBEDIENCE, not her uncut hair. Nor did she insinuate that her covering granted her special favor or powers with God.
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We've been over and over this already bro. It's the other remarks she makes that are problematic and can't be overlooked and give us the heads up she's been taught improperly. 
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03-19-2007, 12:17 PM
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I haven't read a single post on this thread that discounts the woman's faith, and/or denies that a miraculous healing took place. It is obvious that God honored her faith. Who's arguing with that?
BUT, the flaw appears when she places trust in the wrong direction. It could, at the very least, lead to some great disillusionment later on.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-19-2007, 12:17 PM
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Who defines long?
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Paul "let her hair grow is the word" can't grow it and cut it at the same time.
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03-19-2007, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I haven't read a single post on this thread that discounts the woman's faith, and/or denies that a miraculous healing took place. It is obvious that God honored her faith. Who's arguing with that?
BUT, the flaw appears when she places trust in the wrong direction. It could, at the very least, lead to some great disillusionment later on.
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Felicity was on target when she said the woman used her hair as some sort of talisman.
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03-19-2007, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
So are you the same person who sent me Hawberry Jelly about 3 years back? I was sure it was you. I asked earlier and you never did answer.
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Why, yes, I did. Sorry, I didn't see the question. It was probably on those pages I skipped.  |
No, it was on another thread where I asked. Guess you skipped some pages there too. 
Anyhow, it was delicious. You never forget a kindness, you know? 
You've been missing from these forums seems like a long time.
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03-19-2007, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Without reading anything into her statements, I think we can agree that the story does say "in obedience to Your Word", but that requires ignoring the rest
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Or, it requires reading between the lines, which is what's been done and has led to the witchcraft comments.
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This comment simply isn't true. It is obvious from her post that she believes her uncut hair gives her special favor and/or powers with God. You'd have to be reading with your eyes closed not to see that. Come on. When you close your eyes to the facts, you discredit yourself in any discussion. If you can't have an honest discussion, your opinions just won't really hold water. Being honest means acknowledging when your opponents actually have a point.
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You're right, and I didn't state clearly what I meant. I meant that she never claimed to have a more special covering or protection from God than the next person because of uncut hair. That has also been insinuated at times in this discussion.
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03-19-2007, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
We've been over and over this already bro. It's the other remarks she makes that are problematic and can't be overlooked and give us the heads up she's been taught improperly. |
Just say you don't agree, then; because there are many who do believe what she does (in regards to the covering and protection) and may be right, as you think you are.
But, quit trying to make this woman a witch, heretic, etc who believes her hair was responsible for the healing.
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- And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
- Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
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03-19-2007, 12:29 PM
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I don't believe the woman is a witch or a heretic. I do believe she is misguided.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-19-2007, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I don't believe the woman is a witch or a heretic. I do believe she is misguided.
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Exactly
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