A Word About Drinking, Drunks, and Those Who Rejoice in Their Sin

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Sherri

If you are talking about "the Closer" that was on here, NO that's not me. I only use this one name and it's the real me.

Anyone who is on the platform or teaching or in any kind of ministry position with our churches has to sign a ministry covenant that has about ten points on it, but one of them is abstaining from alcohol. So I could not partake of wine; I would feel like I was going against what I pledged. Hope this makes sense.

Don't drink Nyquil!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Sherri

What does this mean anyway???? Do you owe me MONEY? I hope so. LOL!!

Uhm... no... "The Closer" ... and it's not money... it's worse... it's "crow."

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Sherri

This is interesting to me today especially. I was made to wear a 24 hour heart monitor today and have to have a bunch of heart tests/blood work done. My doctor (who is a Christian) asked me if it would go against my religious convictions to drink a glass of wine each night to calm my jumpy heartbeat. I told him that I just could not do it, and that also anyone doing ministry in our church signs a covenant not to consume any alcohol. He was very respectful and said then that I should not have any. I have to believe that God will honor that obedience.

Anyway, this thread came up at an interesting time for me!

A few months ago I started a thread about Apostle Ron Carpenter Jr. in SC. I have one of his videos and he told about the Dr. telling the samething. He was perplexed. I am not sure I believe he told them no. But I also know people that are very UPC that have done this to help calm them. My father being one and my mother the other. Neither of them drink, my father used to, but now doesn't but they found it more of an innconvience to go buy wine to drink one glass a night. They both hated the taste and quit. But there are people that drink real wine for communion. I applaud you for stinking to your beliefs. It would be tough for me I think if I had to choose between possible better health and a consecration, but God wins out all the time.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

A few months ago I started a thread about Apostle Ron Carpenter Jr. in SC. I have one of his videos and he told about the Dr. telling the samething. He was perplexed. I am not sure I believe he told them no. But I also know people that are very UPC that have done this to help calm them. My father being one and my mother the other. Neither of them drink, my father used to, but now doesn't but they found it more of an innconvience to go buy wine to drink one glass a night. They both hated the taste and quit. But there are people that drink real wine for communion. I applaud you for stinking to your beliefs. It would be tough for me I think if I had to choose between possible better health and a consecration, but God wins out all the time.

I know of UPC people who drink wine for health reasons, and that's fine. I just can't do it; a covenant is a serious thing to me. I would feel like I was disobeying if I had wine. Just my own personal feelings.

Originally Posted by COOPER

Originally Posted by Pianoman
Oh brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are you when you get a DUI??? A drunkard or a buzzard???

DUI: Driving under the influence. "Buzz"

DWI: Driving while Intoxicated. "Drunk"

DUI is a lesser offence than DWI.

I am sure someone has already addressed this but Coop you are looking pretty pathetic in your attempt to make a non-existant distinction!

DUI, DWI... at least in Louisiana... is the same thing. Typically, DUI is used for those who are impaired but not obviously from drinking. DWI is used for the guy who gets out of the car and you could sell another "Buzzard" his slobber if you bottled it.

I wish I could open my heart here on this thread but I cannot. Just suffice it to say that no one ever set out to be an alcoholic but everyone of them started out with a single drink! So, go ahead and have your little sinless indulgences. I will pray that you do not lose your gamble or that someone else does not lose because of your gamble!

I live every day with the results of what started with a single drink!

RW, your flaunting of your liberties in this area are no different than your dancing threads or any of your other asinine threads that are intended to offend others and show how free you are! It really grosses me out and makes me wonder about more than your single drinks and your sloppy sambas!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I know of UPC people who drink wine for health reasons, and that's fine. I just can't do it; a covenant is a serious thing to me. I would feel like I was disobeying if I had wine. Just my own personal feelings.

Highly admirable ... I believe God honors our covenants .... I too do not drink and have personal feelings against its usage but cannot be theologically dishonest and act as if someone likes to drink recreationally they somehow are less spiritual.

[RandyWayne]

RW, your flaunting of your liberties in this area are no different than your dancing threads or any of your other asinine threads that are intended to offend others and show how free you are! It really grosses me out and makes me wonder about more than your single drinks and your sloppy sambas!

My Sambas are not sloppy. No one puts Baby in the corner!

Originally Posted by Sherri

I know of UPC people who drink wine for health reasons, and that's fine. I just can't do it; a covenant is a serious thing to me. I would feel like I was disobeying if I had wine. Just my own personal feelings.

Sherri,

Sorry to hear about the heart issues. You will be in my prayers daily! I anticipate the miraculous in your life!

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I know of UPC people who drink wine for health reasons, and that's fine. I just can't do it; a covenant is a serious thing to me. I would feel like I was disobeying if I had wine. Just my own personal feelings.

I agree, for you it is the most important thing. That is real Christianity! To truly be like Christ this is the way to live. The sad truth is that for most people it does not work that way. Often times people let down beliefs because of peer pressure some add beliefs because of the same. But it is truly, truly awesome when one can stand on their beliefs and God stands tehre with them so they are not alone.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by philjones

RW, your flaunting of your liberties in this area are no different than your dancing threads or any of your other asinine threads that are intended to offend others and show how free you are! It really grosses me out and makes me wonder about more than your single drinks and your sloppy sambas!

You gotta love this stuff .... PJ do you really get physically sick based on what people post here ... if so ... perhaps it's best ...