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[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

Too bad a good thread has been ruined.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Timmy really pulled it off yesterday!!!

That is 2x he has no hit the padres in his career.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

That is 2x he has no hit the padres in his career.

I believe that was the "Only" 2 times he has pitched a no hitter. And let's not forget, Lincecum started both rallies, with lead-off singles! Great job for a pitcher!

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

How many of y'all attend an Apostolic church? By that I mean they teach Jesus is the ONE person of the Godhead and baptize in Jesus Name and believe the Holy Ghost baptism with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues? Just wondering?

I do!

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by ILG

Who is actually doing the hair splitting? I think it is splitting hairs to say you can repent, be baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost and still be lost because the preacher did not say the right things. For it is by grace you are saved by faith.

If the "technicalities" of baptism aren't important, then why did the disciples that were baptized unto John's baptism in Acts 19 have to be rebaptized?

1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by LadyRev

If the "technicalities" of baptism aren't important, then why did the disciples that were baptized unto John's baptism in Acts 19 have to be rebaptized?

1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Apparently because they weren't followers of Jesus before then. But the Jesus name baptism promoters, meaning those who demand a 3rd party pronounces the name of Jesus over a candidate, demand rebaptism of those who are already Jesus followers.

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by shazeep

Um, what? I thought he was polite, concise, and accurate. You people are dangerous, and have no clue what damage you do, speaking in general, of course. it can easily be argued that this thread is a self-proclaimed indictment of the religious establishment, and why we are in the shape we are in today. I know this seems harsh, but If My people, who are called by My Name... is represented by you. While i don't mean this as a blanket indictment, if the shoe fits...and hey, your post shows that you appear to be slipping right into it, wadr.

And ps, although i doubt that you would be able to discern it, Christ was a big advocate of losing your religion. Your finale of "blather" sums it up, nicely. Physician, heal thyself.

You and others call it "religion". I call it relationship.

I came out of religion when I left the Catholic church. I came into a relationship with Jesus Christ when I joined the little UPC church that was behind the house where I lived with my parents. I was 14 years old.

I DID NOT come into a relationship with an organization, a denomination, a personality or a set of rules. I found Jesus Christ and His love and my life has NEVER been the same because of RELATIONSHIP, not religion.

The UPC is my organization and church of CHOICE. Its not perfect because it consists of PEOPLE! Nothing with people in it will ever be perfect until we get to heaven! But these imperfections should not, and for me they DO NOT, change my RELATIONSHIP with Jesus Christ.

My parents beat me for going to this church. I am regarded as a heretic by my Catholic family members to this day. I am a tad over age 29 now.

I have no regrets.

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by ILG

Apparently because they weren't followers of Jesus before then. But the Jesus name baptism promoters, meaning those who demand a 3rd party pronounces the name of Jesus over a candidate, demand rebaptism of those who are already Jesus followers.

The scripture says they were already followers. It says they were "certain disciples" and Paul asked them if they had received the Holy Ghost "since they believed". They believed on Jesus as preached by John. When Paul questioned their baptism and they said unto John's baptism, after Paul explained, they were then re-baptized in the name of Jesus.

This is clearly an important "technicality" or there would be no need for them to be "re-baptized".

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by LadyRev

You and others call it "religion". I call it relationship.

I came out of religion when I left the Catholic church. I came into a relationship with Jesus Christ when I joined the little UPC church that was behind the house where I lived with my parents. I was 14 years old.

I DID NOT come into a relationship with an organization, a denomination, a personality or a set of rules. I found Jesus Christ and His love and my life has NEVER been the same because of RELATIONSHIP, not religion.

The UPC is my organization and church of CHOICE. Its not perfect because it consists of PEOPLE! Nothing with people in it will ever be perfect until we get to heaven! But these imperfections should not, and for me they DO NOT, change my RELATIONSHIP with Jesus Christ.

My parents beat me for going to this church. I am regarded as a heretic by my Catholic family members to this day. I am a tad over age 29 now.

I have no regrets.

The movement you're in is a "Religion", just like the Catholic Church. Try leaving and see what happens. You will be treated just like you were treated when you left the CC.

I am also a Catholic via Tradition and upbringing. The most influential people in my life were Catholics, and my Grandparents were absolute Saints, if there is such a thing.

They were upset when I left the CC, but I was never called a heretic. During the 70's when I switched over to UPC church, lot's of us Hippies wanted something more charismatic.

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

You must be bitter. I'll pray for you.

Do that. I need the prayer and you need the practice.