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05-01-2014, 06:33 PM
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Re: You Can Fake It All
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Originally Posted by ILG
Not taking the bait, n david...
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Because you can't defend yourself on this. You completely exposed yourself with that post.
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Hmm, well it certainly sounds like they were faking!
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No love. No compassion. No fruit of the spirit operating. Just bitter, judgemental, stone throwing at these souls who fell into sin.
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05-01-2014, 07:02 PM
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Re: You Can Fake It All
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Originally Posted by n david
Because you can't defend yourself on this. You completely exposed yourself with that post.
No love. No compassion. No fruit of the spirit operating. Just bitter, judgemental, stone throwing at these souls who fell into sin.
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But she does not do that...she just references the UPC because it's her experience....
That's not been my experience with her posts and now that Charnock has spilled his venom and ILG is pretty much agreeing with him, it's clearly obvious
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-01-2014, 07:04 PM
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Re: You Can Fake It All
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Originally Posted by n david
You without sin, cast the first stone.
Amazing how you ex-UPCers whine about how the UPC is sooooo judgemental, yet every single one of you judge as well.
Hypocrites, every single one of you.
No love. No fruit. No spirit.
Bitter, empty people, whose only happiness is throwing stones at the UPC.
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Exactly and ironic...
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-01-2014, 07:05 PM
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You used to call me Michlow
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Re: You Can Fake It All
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Originally Posted by n david
You without sin, cast the first stone.
Amazing how you ex-UPCers whine about how the UPC is sooooo judgemental, yet every single one of you judge as well.
Hypocrites, every single one of you.
No love. No fruit. No spirit.
Bitter, empty people, whose only happiness is throwing stones at the UPC.
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Ok, now wait! This was completely unfair. I have done everything in power, to be be unconfrontational, and gentle in all my responses, and I haven't even MENTIONED the UPC.
I am not perfect, and I'm sure I have been guilty of being both judgemental and a hypocrite in my life, but I don't feel like I have been in this thread, or on this forum (since my recent return).
I confess, that I was not exactly Mary Sunshine when I first left organized religion and in truth I had been saved in a very unhealthy church, which happened to be of a particular denomination, (said church no longer exists, BTW). And I was really messed up for a long time.
But I took a 7 year sabbatical and feel like I am completely healed from my past. So if I have said something that sounded bitter or angry or cruel, please show me the post, because I honestly don't feel that way.
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05-01-2014, 07:11 PM
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Re: You Can Fake It All
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Originally Posted by Dichotomy Girl
Ok, now wait! This was completely unfair. I have done everything in power, to be be unconfrontational, and gentle in all my responses, and I haven't even MENTIONED the UPC.
I am not perfect, and I'm sure I have been guilty of being both judgemental and a hypocrite in my life, but I don't feel like I have been in this thread, or on this forum (since my recent return).
I confess, that I was not exactly Mary Sunshine when I first left organized religion and in truth I had been saved in a very unhealthy church, which happened to be of a particular denomination, (said church no longer exists, BTW). And I was really messed up for a long time.
But I took a 7 year sabbatical and feel like I am completely healed from my past. So if I have sad something that sounded bitter or angry or cruel, please show me the post, because I honestly don't feel that way.
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Im glad you were able to move on and heal. :-)
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-01-2014, 07:16 PM
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Re: You Can Fake It All
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Originally Posted by n david
Sorry, you were saying?
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It is easy to fake "salvation" as the UPC defines it.
the whole UPC formula can be faked.
The UPC is my point of reference and there are people in the UPC that can and do fake it but the church doesn't notice because they follow the rules.
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Hmm, well it certainly sounds like they were faking!
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In the above quotes, I do not once say that UPC'ers are fakers. I'm really sad that you think that. The UPC formula can indeed be faked! That is not at all the same thing as saying that UPC'ers are fakers. Two very different things.
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05-01-2014, 07:16 PM
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Re: You Can Fake It All
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Originally Posted by n david
Because you can't defend yourself on this. You completely exposed yourself with that post.
No love. No compassion. No fruit of the spirit operating. Just bitter, judgemental, stone throwing at these souls who fell into sin.
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No, you are completely misunderstanding me.
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05-01-2014, 07:17 PM
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This has gone from a dumb thread to an ugly thread.
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05-01-2014, 07:27 PM
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Re: You Can Fake It All
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Originally Posted by ILG
In the above quotes, I do not once say that UPC'ers are fakers. I'm really sad that you think that. The UPC formula can indeed be faked! That is not at all the same thing as saying that UPC'ers are fakers. Two very different things.
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Yes...but why does he think that? Could it be from years of constant anti UPC posts and topics?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-01-2014, 07:28 PM
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Re: You Can Fake It All
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Originally Posted by endtimer
This has gone from a dumb thread to an ugly thread.
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I don't believe it was an entirely dumb thread. Salvation..can be faked.
Even in the early church..Jesus talked about Wolves. Others talked about men coming in amongst us
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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