Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by TheLegalist

Also if you want start another thread... I really don't want to continue here. As this is Mr. Andersons thread and it has been hijacked.

The "hijacked" baloney is.....baloney. It's a conversation that takes many turns. Every conversation does. There isn't a single lengthy thread that doesn't take many twists and turns. However, if you're already saying, "Uncle", fine.

[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I do not make Eternal Security a big issue. I can respect both sides of the issue and as far as I'm concerned, it's a non-essential topic that doesn't mess me up either way. However, I do not believe it is possible that God will walk away from us and take away our salvation. However, I do believe it is possible for us to walk away from God and abandon our salvation.

so that is a no?

[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by notofworks

The "hijacked" baloney is.....baloney. It's a conversation that takes many turns. Every conversation does. There isn't a single lengthy thread that doesn't take many twists and turns. However, if you're already saying, "Uncle", fine.

uncle? I simply said START another thread. Have you looked at the topic? LOL

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by TheLegalist

uncle? I simply said START another thread. Have you looked at the topic? LOL

There's already another thread. Go dig that one up if you want.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by TheLegalist

so that is a no?

It's not a simple "Yes" or "No". There are so many genres of Eternal Security that have a wide range of beliefs. There is a group that says that if you're saved, you can do anything you like the rest of your life and you're still saved. I think that's ridiculous. There's another group that says if you're saved and then go back into a life of sin, that you weren't really saved to start with. I think that's wrong as well.

Then there's the group how I described my belief (the right one, of course ). Some would call my beliefs Eternal Security. I'll tell you this, though, I don't think one's belief in Eternal Security is a salvation dealbreaker.

[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by notofworks

It's not a simple "Yes" or "No". There are so many genres of Eternal Security that have a wide range of beliefs. There is a group that says that if you're saved, you can do anything you like the rest of your life and you're still saved. I think that's ridiculous. There's another group that says if you're saved and then go back into a life of sin, that you weren't really saved to start with. I think that's wrong as well.

Then there's the group how I described my belief (the right one, of course ). Some would call my beliefs Eternal Security. I'll tell you this, though, I don't think one's belief in Eternal Security is a salvation dealbreaker.

I started a thread...

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by TheLegalist

I started a thread...

Wait....I typed all that for nothing???

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by notofworks

And this really is the point I'm trying to make. Haven't we learned enough from the Mormons and the JWs, etc., to be freaked out by a group of people that wants to publish THEIR OWN edition of the bible???

Let me tell you something.....if the Southern Baptist Convention were talking about doing this, can you imagine what the pentecostal reaction would be? Just think about that.

Trinitarians have been doing it for years. The Unitarians have..whats the problem as long as it holds up to scholarly criticism?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Well if God is love, what was the object of His love before creation?

Love is a quality of His Divine nature. Whether there is someone around or not, He is still God unchanged.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Trinitarians have been doing it for years. The Unitarians have..whats the problem as long as it holds up to scholarly criticism?

Trinitarians have NOT been translating a bible for the purpose of upholding, supporting, and propagating their version of the trinity. To believe that is to become a whacked out conspiracy theorist, that for centuries they've conspired to stick to those oneness people.

The Unitarians? Well, if you wanna be grouped with them, have at it.