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06-29-2009, 01:16 PM
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Re: Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
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I see the organization picking and choosing on this. The world drives cars and eats at resturants, why does the church not draw the line there?
Being separate from the world is NOT about dress so much as it is about attitutudes. JMO
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I think the Amish are separate from the world.
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06-29-2009, 04:29 PM
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Re: Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
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I see the organization picking and choosing on this. The world drives cars and eats at resturants, why does the church not draw the line there?
Being separate from the world is NOT about dress so much as it is about attitutudes. JMO
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Absolutely. It's about what you love, and how you love others.
The world uses cell phones, computers, hairspray, deodorant, toothpaste, airplanes, comfortable homes, swimming pools, shops at stores... boy, you could go on and on.
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06-29-2009, 04:41 PM
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Re: Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
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Absolutely. It's about what you love, and how you love others.
The world uses cell phones, computers, hairspray, deodorant, toothpaste, airplanes, comfortable homes, swimming pools, shops at stores... boy, you could go on and on.
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Have you noticed that when many folks tell you that they heard the voice of God, the message always is in agreement with their beliefs? Couldn't God speak to you and tell you something opposite to what you believe? At that point, wouldn't most people think that it was Satan tempting them into heresy? Think about it!
"Separation from the world" doesn't mean that you join a cult and move to a ranch far away from everybody! The world lies, cheats and steals, and Godly people don't live their lives that way. You will know a Godly person by their love toward one another.
It does NOT mean to separate yourself from your given dress culture.
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06-29-2009, 04:45 PM
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Re: Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
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The world uses cell phones, computers, hairspray, deodorant, toothpaste, airplanes, comfortable homes, swimming pools, shops at stores... boy, you could go on and on.
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Not all Christians participate in that worldly stuff.
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06-29-2009, 05:00 PM
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Re: Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
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Not all Christians participate in that worldly stuff.
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You mean like deodorant and such as that???? 
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06-29-2009, 05:01 PM
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Re: Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
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Have you noticed that when many folks tell you that they heard the voice of God, the message always is in agreement with their beliefs? Couldn't God speak to you and tell you something opposite to what you believe? At that point, wouldn't most people think that it was Satan tempting them into heresy? Think about it!
"Separation from the world" doesn't mean that you join a cult and move to a ranch far away from everybody! The world lies, cheats and steals, and Godly people don't live their lives that way. You will know a Godly person by their love toward one another.
It does NOT mean to separate yourself from your given dress culture.
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DITTO me on this post. Particularly the bolded part.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-29-2009, 05:45 PM
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Re: Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
Seperation from the world,means that believers seperate themselves from the way unbelievers order or arrange their lifestyles.
Christians belong to a heavenly kingdom,so their lifestyle reflects this.
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06-29-2009, 05:47 PM
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Re: Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
One can dress like their culture and still maintain the Christian principle of modesty.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
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06-29-2009, 05:56 PM
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Re: Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
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One can dress like their culture and still maintain the Christian principle of modesty.
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Agree! I believe a Christian shouldn't dress in a way that will hinder their witness. People can dress too conservative as well as too liberal. One can be just as bad as the other when you're trying to influence others around you.
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06-29-2009, 06:19 PM
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Re: Another SPLIT from the UPCI???
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Agree! I believe a Christian shouldn't dress in a way that will hinder their witness. People can dress too conservative as well as too liberal. One can be just as bad as the other when you're trying to influence others around you.
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GREAT point. Moderation is a good thing.
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