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12-11-2008, 08:57 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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I watched Survivor tonight! Haven't done that in a couple of years. But a teacher from a neighboring town is ruling the roost on that show and it was fun to watch. You could see him cringe every time he lied!
Now I can go to work and talk to my coworker who knows him because her children took his physics class.
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Is Steve Perry still their lead singer?
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12-11-2008, 08:57 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Pastors being too close to laity can lead to all sorts of deviance.
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can you prove this statement? Why would it lead to that?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-11-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Charnock
It's called hyperbole.
Daniel taught me all about it.
hee hee
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That's not a hyperbole, that is an exaggeration :P
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-11-2008, 09:00 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
I thought about starting a new thread - What's the Difference in Exaggeration and Lying.
Think it'd get much traffic?
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12-11-2008, 09:01 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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I thought about starting a new thread - What's the Difference in Exaggeration and Lying.
Think it'd get much traffic?
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that depends on whether you are bashing Pastors or non Pastors....
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-11-2008, 09:02 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
that depends on whether you are bashing Pastors or non Pastors....
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OR - if you are a saint bashing a pastor, or another pastor bashing a pastor! 
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12-11-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
Opps - Admin overload.
I'm going to the Christmas thread (or as Bro. Epley would see it - the Knitting Thread)
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12-11-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Plenty, but definitely not all of them are trashing pastors, if any.
They have disagreements with the organization, but so do many of us.
I'm tired of the "oooh, everyone on AFF is trashing pastors" refrain.
I've seen pastors on this forum call other pastors "liars", as recently as yesterday! But, I don't hear the same public outcry when its a pastor doing it as when a saint supposedly does it.
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Now Reverend, did the alleged incident actually include the phrase "you're a liar?"
And, on this very thread, today, an admin compared pastors to racists.
Sometimes we can go too far, I'm sure.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-11-2008, 09:04 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
I thought about starting a new thread - What's the Difference in Exaggeration and Lying.
Think it'd get much traffic?
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It's exaggeration when I do it.
It's lying when someone I don't like does it.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-11-2008, 09:05 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Charnock
Now Reverend, did the alleged incident actually include the phrase "you're a liar?"
And, on this very thread, today, an admin compared pastors to racists.
Sometimes we can go too far, I'm sure.
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Semantics.
And, the admin did no such thing as compare pastors to racists, he used the word "prejudice" which is decidedly different that "racism", which you well know.
So, let me ask you a question. Let's say a saint was done wrong by a pastor.
How should that saint handle such an offense?
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