Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

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Originally Posted by JoeBandy

I actually understand some of the points Sean is trying to make!!

I understand some of his points, too, but I utterly and absolutely disagree with them. He makes things up as he goes, and does not survey all the bible carefully before making those conclusions. And worst of all, he does not listen to others in case he might need correction. he's his own judge, jury, witness, lawyer, and accused. It's all in him. lol

[Sean]

I dont make things up.

I post Bible verses and agree with them.

I use very little commentary as proof that I dont make things up.

I mostly observe those that go crazy over, or shun these verses, with amazement.

[Sean]

I now can read any verse in my Bible with complete satisfaction that I can easily harmonize their words perfectly.

I could not do that easily in former years, as an H/U.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by JoeBandy

I actually understand some of the points Sean is trying to make!!

I understand some of the points he is trying to make too, but that does not make him right. I would say this all started when Sean come against the idea of FF, I blew his mind that he has gone on a rampage to make the bible meaning to be so literal that he has lost his mind.

[Sean]

Hey, I am much more chill with you guys on the preterism thing.(Actually, it was the hot tempered DB that got me going in the ballistic mode).

You other guys were always cool to me.

I think you know that is true, Loren.


This subject is much bigger and relevant to us than eschatology.

[Sean]

The hot tempered DB gets me fired up into the "fun" mode....LOL

[Sean]

Oh, I almost forgot, Gail Riplinger is the devil.
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LOL...you gotta love this hothead brother.

[Sean]

1st century Church teaching.....


7 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.(God THROUGH Jesus)


21st century teaching......


7 To God only wise, be glory AS Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.(God AS Jesus)



This was changed by H/U's with commentary and adopted by church leaders without question.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Esaias

YOU YOURSELF saw how if the Word was the voice, and the Word was made flesh, then the voice was made flesh.

YOUR OWN REASONING demands that if the Word was GOD, and the Word was made flesh, then GOD WAS MADE FLESH.

Because John didn't say "And the Word was the voice." Nope, he said "And the Word was GOD."

Tex I wonder why Jesus in the flesh never said "I am God". Not once. I have always wondered about this. I wonder why Jesus in the flesh took the time to go pray in the garden - to who? Why does the word made flesh who was God go off and pray in the wilderness and to who does he pray to?

This kid may be right or may be wrong who knows. But John 1 does not explain embryos and prayer times - by God to God?

Small wonder your peers don't and never do touch that question. The answer seems to underpin the whole basic belief set. It does need to be answered someday.

Jesus in Acts when Stephen was stoned wasn't sitting on the throne. He was "at the right hand". Jesus wasn't sitting on "the throne" in Revelations either. So this begs answer to the open and unending question. WHO is Jesus really? He is Not what is taught behind your pulpits. Does not add up. He is different from God however He is fully empowered to represent God's word seems to be the closest fit.

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Walks in Islam again??? At the right hand means on the throne.

Seriously?

Psalms 110:1 KJV A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

1 Corinthians 15:24-26 KJV (24) Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. (25) For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. (26) The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.