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Old 03-13-2021, 05:23 AM
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So you think fornication consummated the marriage?
Do you think when Issac brought Rebekah into his tent that it was considered fornication?

What I'm asking is this, does intimacy consummate the becoming of one flesh? There has been a discussion on what actions break a marriage. Well, what action begins the becoming of one?
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Do you think when Issac brought Rebekah into his tent that it was considered fornication?

What I'm asking is this, does intimacy consummate the becoming of one flesh? There has been a discussion on what actions break a marriage. Well, what action begins the becoming of one?
Action of two people consenting entering into a marriage covenant, where both parties are available lawfully.

Am I the only one that answers questions. It’s like some here rather than answer a question that might make their position look weak , they just ask another question instead.
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Do you think when Issac brought Rebekah into his tent that it was considered fornication?

What I'm asking is this, does intimacy consummate the becoming of one flesh? There has been a discussion on what actions break a marriage. Well, what action begins the becoming of one?
Do you think fornication consummates marriage?
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Action of two people consenting entering into a marriage covenant, where both parties are available lawfully.

Am I the only one that answers questions. It’s like some here rather than answer a question that might make their position look weak , they just ask another question instead.

That is exactly what you do. You avoid questions that make your position look weak.
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Old 03-13-2021, 11:10 PM
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That is exactly what you do. You avoid questions that make your position look weak.
No that is what you do.
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Do you think when Issac brought Rebekah into his tent that it was considered fornication?

What I'm asking is this, does intimacy consummate the becoming of one flesh? There has been a discussion on what actions break a marriage. Well, what action begins the becoming of one?
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Action of two people consenting entering into a marriage covenant, where both parties are available lawfully.

Am I the only one that answers questions. It’s like some here rather than answer a question that might make their position look weak , they just ask another question instead.
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Do you think fornication consummates marriage?
Maybe this will shed some light on the subject. It appears that Paul believes that the physical act of sex with the harlot, makes you become one with the harlot.

1Cor.6

[15] Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
[16] What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

I know we hear the two being one flesh in relation to marriage, but Paul said it was also the case with fornication.
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Do you think fornication consummates marriage?
TM already answered it.
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Old 03-14-2021, 07:15 AM
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Maybe this will shed some light on the subject. It appears that Paul believes that the physical act of sex with the harlot, makes you become one with the harlot.

1Cor.6

[15] Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
[16] What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

I know we hear the two being one flesh in relation to marriage, but Paul said it was also the case with fornication.
If some were not virgins before they were married, does that mean the spouse they are with are not their “true” spouses?

Ive read on this forum and know a Pastor who is a very good friend of mine, actually even wrote a book in support of, if you were divorced and then remarried before Christ the spouse you are with is not your spouse. You need to leave and either be reconciled with the former or remain alone.

Ive heard it, “the blood” doesn’t cover divorce because there was nothing sinful about the act of getting married. They use the Bible when it states let the thief steal no more, in conjunction with the divorced/remarried.

Yet, the room goes silent especially if some of us on here played the role of a harlot or whoremonger and slept around before our Acts 2:38 experience. Because that means you have become one with more than one flesh, you made a covenant with that person.

I believe the divorced, the fornicator, the adulterer when they come to Christ, they are new. ALL THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY......
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Old 03-14-2021, 01:01 PM
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If some were not virgins before they were married, does that mean the spouse they are with are not their “true” spouses?

Ive read on this forum and know a Pastor who is a very good friend of mine, actually even wrote a book in support of, if you were divorced and then remarried before Christ the spouse you are with is not your spouse. You need to leave and either be reconciled with the former or remain alone.

Ive heard it, “the blood” doesn’t cover divorce because there was nothing sinful about the act of getting married. They use the Bible when it states let the thief steal no more, in conjunction with the divorced/remarried.

Yet, the room goes silent especially if some of us on here played the role of a harlot or whoremonger and slept around before our Acts 2:38 experience. Because that means you have become one with more than one flesh, you made a covenant with that person.

I believe the divorced, the fornicator, the adulterer when they come to Christ, they are new. ALL THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY......
We done Brother. I agree.
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Y’all won’t say it , but your belief is that fornication consummates marriage. If not , please clarify.
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