Apostolics of Grant Parish/ Br. Lane Creech

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

No matter what family does they are still family...it will never change the fact of who their parents are. Calling someone family that has legitimate biological connection is a simple statement of truth that you are acknowledging a common genetic connection or connection by marital bond of some type.


However spiritually, brother or sister is denoted by the sharing of a common Father...and scripture says that if we are His, then we will do His will and obey Him and if we do not than we are non of His.


So if God says that you are only His if you obey and there are things we can do or NOT do that reveals our spiritual parentage, if I call someone brother or sister that God does NOT acknowledge as His, am I lying?

Well, I believe this post just nailed that board down flat.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

No matter what family does they are still family...it will never change the fact of who their parents are. Calling someone family that has legitimate biological connection is a simple statement of truth that you are acknowledging a common genetic connection or connection by marital bond of some type.


However spiritually, brother or sister is denoted by the sharing of a common Father...and scripture says that if we are His, then we will do His will and obey Him and if we do not than we are non of His.


So if God says that you are only His if you obey and there are things we can do or NOT do that reveals our spiritual parentage, if I call someone brother or sister that God does NOT acknowledge as His, am I lying?

"Brother" has different meanings, depending on usage.

Acts 2:29 KJV
Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

Peter addressed unregenerate kinsmen as "brothers".

Acts 3:17 KJV
And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers.

Again he addresses the ones he claims murdered Christ as "brothers".

Acts 13:26 KJV
Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.

Paul did likewise, addressing unregenerate kinsmen and fellow Judean citizens as "brothers".

So, the term has a range of application. Kinsmen, as descended from a common ancestor, are "brethren". This is simply a term of gracious address and etiquette, like "friend", applied to distant relatives.

The meaning of course can be narrowed to members of the same faith. The difference depends on the context and the intention.

[Bro Flame]

I was just calling him Br. Creech because that's the title of the forum and he's been referenced by many as such throughout the replies here.

But technically, he isn't a brother I suppose. He is deliberately not preaching truth when he knows better.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I heard he's a vegan.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I heard he's a vegan.

I hear he has joined CR and is also among the prophets.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I hear he has joined CR and is also among the prophets.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

No matter what family does they are still family...it will never change the fact of who their parents are. Calling someone family that has legitimate biological connection is a simple statement of truth that you are acknowledging a common genetic connection or connection by marital bond of some type.


However spiritually, brother or sister is denoted by the sharing of a common Father...and scripture says that if we are His, then we will do His will and obey Him and if we do not than we are non of His.


So if God says that you are only His if you obey and there are things we can do or NOT do that reveals our spiritual parentage, if I call someone brother or sister that God does NOT acknowledge as His, am I lying?

I do tend to agree, and that's how I've treated those who left the faith in the past, including a former pastor and his family.

The previous post did momentarily make me stop and wonder though: should we consider them still our brother in the Lord - even though they've turned their back on the truth - under the assumption we can yet guide them back?

[good samaritan]

Did the early church even address one another with the title brother or sister? It is definitely used in churches today with the intent of recognition of status in the church. I find that it can be a source of unnecessary offense. In the body we should treat one another as brother and sisters. That is a lot more important then simply calling one another brother and sister. I see all mankind as brothers in ancestry. I have called total strangers brother before in conversation and it had nothing to do with spirituality. If you are saying it recognize church status then I see where it can be viewed as dishonest.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

Did the early church even address one another with the title brother or sister?

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved

BROTHER

Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;


2 Peter 3:15

Originally Posted by good samaritan

It is definitely used in churches today with the intent of recognition of status in the church.

As it was in churches back then.

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I find that it can be a source of unnecessary offense.

Don't bro me if you don't know me.

Originally Posted by good samaritan

In the body we should treat one another as brother and sisters. That is a lot more important then simply calling one another brother and sister.

Hence the title goes with the feelings.

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I see all mankind as brothers in ancestry.

The brotherhood of man? You are transferred from that brotherhood into becoming placed in the lineage of the brotherhood of Christ

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I have called total strangers brother before in conversation and it had nothing to do with spirituality.

Again, don't bro me if you don't know me. Secular people in the secular world, have been known to call each other bro. "What it be bro!?" "Hey Joe, have you seen my bro?" "I got to go, and talk with my bro." "Mom, I'm going to out in the snow, and look for my bro."

Originally Posted by good samaritan

If you are saying it recognize church status then I see where it can be viewed as dishonest.

That was the initial point being made.

Don't Bro me, if you don't know me!

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved

BROTHER

Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;


2 Peter 3:15




As it was in churches back then.



Don't bro me if you don't know me.




Hence the title goes with the feelings.



The brotherhood of man? You are transferred from that brotherhood into becoming placed in the lineage of the brotherhood of Christ





Again, don't bro me if you don't know me. Secular people in the secular world, have been known to call each other bro. "What it be bro!?" "Hey Joe, have you seen my bro?" "I got to go, and talk with my bro." "Mom, I'm going to out in the snow, and look for my bro."



That was the initial point being made.

Don't Bro me, if you don't know me!

I realize the scripture refor to the family of God as brothers, but what I am not sure of, did that habitually use the word brother as a title before there real names.