Gay Marriage: For or Against?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

In the case of the twins I mentioned, only the twins were gay. They had two brothers who were heterosexual. Four boys, raised in the same environment, two are straight, the twins are homosexual.

They removed homosexuality and neurosis from the DSM II and IV. Twin studies are all vaery important. Twins are dress the same, look the same and play wuith each other. They have most nearly identical environments and temperaments. This gay feature should run 100% identical.

More than 70 percent of the depressed twins had alcohol problems at some time in their lives, as did 67 percent of the nondepressed twins. In twin pairs where neither had depression, the lifetime rate of alcohol abuse or dependence was 53 percent. Those rates are much higher than in the general population, where the prevalence of alcohol problems is closer to 30 percent.

http://wupa.wustl.edu/record_archive...0-97/1026.html

A study of identical twins showed that a twin will develop clinical depression more than 75 percent of the time if the other has been diagnosed.

If raised appart, it runs 67%

http://www.allaboutdepression.com/cau_03.html

[Aquila]

Coadie, I'm of the opinion that you may very well be left in the flat earth catagory after science advances in all this research.

Psychology is a quack science anyway.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Coadie, I'm of the opinion that you may very well be left in the flat earth catagory after science advances in all this research.

Psychology is a quack science anyway.

I have formal and advanced education in Psychology. I agree with you. When in an inpatient clinical rotation, I decided it was a way to make money on people's misery. Psychiatry as a field that has a horrible cure rate. My experience in neuro surgery tells me that "only surgeons cure" may be more accurate.

I was taught that neurotics build castles in the skies. Psychotics live in castles in the sky and Psychologists collect rent.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

I have formal and advanced education in Psychology. I agree with you. When in an inpatient clinical rotation, I decided it was a way to make money on people's misery. Psychiatry as a field that has a horrible cure rate. My experience in neuro surgery tells me that "only surgeons cure" may be more accurate.

I was taught that neurotics build castles in the skies. Psychotics live in castles in the sky and Psychologists collect rent.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I've read about blind tests with pharmones. Those who were reportedly "gay" biologically reacted to blind samples of same gender pharamone while those who were not biologically reacted to opposite gender pharamone.

It's called, "chemistry". It's in our biology. I'd say that their biology leaves them predisposed to this attraction given a biological component.

All this would mean is that they need a divine touch both spiritually, emotionally, and physically for wholeness according to the biblical perspective.

College freshmen take basic psychology and cover Pavlovs dogs. With reinforcement, we can create stimulus and response. Gays have a history of sniffing other gays? Your experiment can't rule out previous reinforcement of stimuli.

Not true at all. It also is not called chemistry. I could see my kids begin to salivate when they smelled their favorite starbursts. If they did n't have a previous association with the smell, there would have been no reaction. Again see Pavlovs dogs.
pheromone???

Homophilia apologetics.

Oh by the way, how did you measure "react"?

No link or data again.

[Aquila]

Now... we know someone could run with this one...

Luke 17:34-35 (King James Version)
34I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Now... we know someone could run with this one...

Luke 17:34-35 (King James Version)
34I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Berkley

Other dance Moves besides grinding or 2 step or booty shaking

Luke 17:34-35 (King James Version)
34I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Grinding is an example of using the culture to interpret scripture

Gay marriage is justified by using modern culture to interpret scripture.

[Aquila]

I know Coadie... it was a joke. lol

The issue at hand is that psychology really is only guessing. The Bible says that we're born with a sin nature (meaning predisposition to sin). Gay people say that they were born gay. Is gay relations sin? Yes. So they are essentially saying that they were born sinners with a predisposition to this sin. The agree with the Bible. We're all in the very same boat regardless of predisposition.

The answer isn't condemning them. The answer is loving them as people and introducing them to Jesus. From there they are his.

[UltraCon]

Its a sin. They are going to hell. plain simple Bible fact.