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12-11-2008, 08:49 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Charnock
Hmmm....don't know where that one came from. Care to explain?
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Well, we are having a discussion about pastors and saints, and you made the statement that if a pastor becomes too close to a saint, all sorts of deviance could occur, and you indicate that 50% percent of the posts on the forum have to do with saints who were abused, I assume, by pastors.
My impression was that you think a lot of saints are "trashing" pastors on this forum.
So, my question is - is it ok for pastors to complain about being abused by other pastors?
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12-11-2008, 08:49 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Let me ask a question here did Jesus Christ call His disciples friends ?
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Yes, but he also separated Himself from the crowds and even some of the disciples on several occasions.
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12-11-2008, 08:50 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Wowsers, how many admins are posting on this thread?
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Two right now.
Is that not allowed?
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12-11-2008, 08:51 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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My impression was that you think a lot of saints are "trashing" pastors on this forum.
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Nope, just Praxeas.
And I don't think it's okay to trash anybody.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-11-2008, 08:52 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
My impression was that you think a lot of saints are "trashing" pastors on this forum.
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Originally Posted by Charnock
Nope, just Praxeas.
And I don't think it's okay to trash anybody.
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Oh, ok.
Thanks for the clarification.
So, in your perception, how do half of the posts on this forum deal with "abusiveness"?
Abuse by whom, and against whom?
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12-11-2008, 08:52 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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By the way, the movie was great!
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I watched Survivor tonight! Haven't done that in a couple of years. But a teacher from a neighboring town is ruling the roost on that show and it was fun to watch. You could see him cringe every time he lied!
Now I can go to work and talk to my coworker who knows him because her children took his physics class.
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12-11-2008, 08:53 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Two right now.
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I think it's great. It makes me feel safe and secure. 
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-11-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Oh, ok.
Thanks for the clarification.
So, in your perception, how do half of the posts on this forum deal with "abusiveness"?
Abuse by whom, and against whom?
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How many posts do Rhoni and Delta Guitar have? 
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-11-2008, 08:55 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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A powerless pulpit engenders powerless Christians.
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Find that in a fortune cookie? What's with all the "sayings"? 
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-11-2008, 08:56 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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How many posts do Rhoni and Delta Guitar have? |
Plenty, but definitely not all of them are trashing pastors, if any.
They have disagreements with the organization, but so do many of us.
I'm tired of the "oooh, everyone on AFF is trashing pastors" refrain.
I've seen pastors on this forum call other pastors "liars", as recently as yesterday! But, I don't hear the same public outcry when its a pastor doing it as when a saint supposedly does it.
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