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[GodsBabyGirl]

Originally Posted by Thad

from the words of a friend who is not apostolic - his recent thoughts on Jakes....as far as Jakes goes. I don't consider him preaching the gospel anymore. he, Joel Osteen, etc. have become affirmation gurus, spiritual Tony Robbins type people. they don't exeggetically teach or preach the word anymore. jakes and that bunch talk bout getting your stuff back, excelling in buisness, reafirming the positive image of oneself. jakes had a God given opportunity to affect the body with the power of preaching the cross, a crucified life, walking in purity, etc. instead fame and fortune has taken his ministry. s.

any truth to these comments ? OR do preachers evolve as they get older? Have the times changed and those not in agreement not keeping up ? i want to stay open minded but after last night, i have to say, i wonder if there may be some merit to what critics are saying about the prosperity thing. everthing seems to be about money now.

That is profound...and I think it may be true. I haven't looked at TD Jakes in a minute.

Very little of what he preaches now does anything for the spirit man.

Man, that is scary!

When I think of Tony Robbins, I think artificial, superficial....

But like I said, as long as folks keep on enabling these ministries and flocking to them, what does the word say..?

Itching ears, heaping teachers unto themselves, ever learning, never coming to the knowledge of the truth!

Jesus help us...

[Thad]

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

I mentioned on here the other day that I heard Dr Pill is gonna be here in town tomorrow and "speaking/ preaching is what they said on the radio ROFL" at Potters house... Its sad but I just dont feel anything but worldliness and ungodlyness when I see the 2 together. There aint no spirit in it! Sorry all you Jakes buddies and stuff say what you may but I know the God I serve and I know whats right and whats wrong and I know It Aint Right and It Aint of God!!!!!

well here's something to think about. last night, Jakes made mention of a lady who pastors out here in Oakland. He told the audience that she was a recent guest speaker at his church. now, from what i hear, this women pastor openly endorses the gay life.

In general, It's pretty much acceptable here now in the black community anyways( bay area).

okay, so dr Phil makes no bones about the fact that he also endorses this lifestyle.

my question is, is there something going on here that hasn't come to the surface ??

just asking

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Thad

from the words of a friend who is not apostolic - his recent thoughts on Jakes....as far as Jakes goes. I don't consider him preaching the gospel anymore. he, Joel Osteen, etc. have become affirmation gurus, spiritual Tony Robbins type people. they don't exeggetically teach or preach the word anymore. jakes and that bunch talk bout getting your stuff back, excelling in buisness, reafirming the positive image of oneself. jakes had a God given opportunity to affect the body with the power of preaching the cross, a crucified life, walking in purity, etc. instead fame and fortune has taken his ministry. s.

any truth to these comments ? OR do preachers evolve as they get older? Have the times changed and those not in agreement not keeping up ? i want to stay open minded but after last night, i have to say, i wonder if there may be some merit to what critics are saying about the prosperity thing. everthing seems to be about money now.

the newest thing is for women in ministry??? YOUR OWN PERFUME LINE! i am not kidding!!!!!!


thanks WB for the kind remarks! much appreciated !

Thad, I am not a preacher, but take it from me...revelation does not take away but only adds to.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Barb

Thad, I am not a preacher, but take it from me...revelation does not take away but only adds to.

what are you referring to ???

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Thad

what are you referring to ???

Thad, you asked if people "evolve" as they get older, and I said that evolving or revelation won't take away anything but only add to what we already have...JMHO...

[GodsBabyGirl]

Originally Posted by Thad

well here's something to think about. last night, Jakes made mention of a lady who pastors out here in Oakland. He told the audience that she was a recent guest speaker at his church. now, from what i hear, this women pastor openly endorses the gay life.

In general, It's pretty much acceptable here now in the black community anyways( bay area).

okay, so dr Phil makes no bones about the fact that he also endorses this lifestyle.

my question is, is there something going on here that hasn't come to the surface ??

just asking

You bet there is!

All the once highly respected Christian leaders are being deceived into being softer on homosexuals and lesbians.

THat is why this hate crimes law is in the process of being passed.

It will make it illegal for a preacher to preach against homosexuality and lesbiansim!

Read on: http://www.afa.net/hatecrime2.asp

First Bishop Carlton Pearson, now Bishop Jakes.

(Bishop) Walter Hawkins seems to support gay and lesbian leadership too in his CA church.

Saints, we gotta pray as never before!

Get the church hooked up with the psychologist crowd so the world can see how much gays and lesbians are so discriminated against, and how it is considered a hate crime to preach the truth!!!!!!

I was censored in my former church's pulpit. I am just gonna let it out...my former pastor struggles with homosexuality. I didn't see it at first. But God gave me signs...

When I started preaching against this and teaching Acts 2:38, well, that is when the persecution started. No I wasn't arrested.

There are preachers today who are actually being arrested for preaching the truth.

Truth is being attacked. Not just Apostolic truth, but truth in every realm of our existence.

Society wants to shut down truth and uplift and finance junk!

Peace

[Arphaxad]

Hey Thad, you guys rocked Magic Mountain.



ARPH

[Thad]

Originally Posted by williamsbaby

You bet there is!

anyone else think so too?

carlton pearson swears that he and jakes had a long talk about everything and that Jakes agrees with him BUT that the church just wasn't ready for it

All the once highly respected Christian leaders are being deceived into being softer on homosexuals and lesbians.
THat is why this hate crimes law is in the process of being passed.
It will make it illegal for a preacher to preach against homosexuality and lesbiansim!
Read on: http://www.afa.net/hatecrime2.asp

First Bishop Carlton Pearson, now Bishop Jakes.

(Bishop) Walter Hawkins seems to support gay and lesbian leadership too in his CA church.

he is being more and more accepted. his church would shock you. it's widely accpeted- even sex changes!

Saints, we gotta pray as never before!

Get the church hooked up with the psychologist crowd so the world can see how much gays and lesbians are so discriminated against, and how it is considered a hate crime to preach the truth!!!!!!

I was censored in my former church's pulpit. I am just gonna let it out...my former pastor struggles with homosexuality. I didn't see it at first. But God gave me signs...

was this a oneness church or upc?
what church was this ???

When I started preaching against this and teaching Acts 2:38, well, that is when the persecution started. No I wasn't arrested.

There are preachers today who are actually being arrested for preaching the truth.
Truth is being attacked. Not just Apostolic truth, but truth in every realm of our existence.

Society wants to shut down truth and uplift and finance junk!

Peace

comments above in RED

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

Hey Thad, you guys rocked Magic Mountain.



ARPH

you was there ?? ummm

have we met ?

MM was a lot of fun - but glad when it was over LOL

thanks for that !

[GodsBabyGirl]

Thad, it wasnt oneness....I'd rather not give names. I weep for their souls....

I know, I know...but those souls need Jesus too.

Pray for them.....and for me....