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07-16-2007, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Once again the gender in language is irrelevant
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Duh, Dan what do you think I have been proving all this time. I have said it verbatim. This is my point. The Gender is irrelevant. The ONLY reason masculine pronouns are used ever in the greek is because the noun is masculine, not to show necessarily something has gender. Church, as I stated already, is feminine in the greek and so would take a feminine pronoun but that does not show the church is a woman
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07-16-2007, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Duh, Dan what do you think I have been proving all this time. I have said it verbatim. This is my point. The Gender is irrelevant. The ONLY reason masculine pronouns are used ever in the greek is because the noun is masculine, not to show necessarily something has gender. Church, as I stated already, is feminine in the greek and so would take a feminine pronoun but that does not show the church is a woman
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So God has never been referred to as Father throughout scripture... your argument is faulty.
Masculine pronouns must be used for this masculine noun
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07-16-2007, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Duh, Dan what do you think I have been proving all this time. I have said it verbatim. This is my point. The Gender is irrelevant. The ONLY reason masculine pronouns are used ever in the greek is because the noun is masculine, not to show necessarily something has gender. Church, as I stated already, is feminine in the greek and so would take a feminine pronoun but that does not show the church is a woman
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The pronoun means nothing but the church is referred to as a Bride [definitely female] and God as the groom ... you are overthinking this one as always
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07-16-2007, 12:17 AM
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Step By Step - Day By Day
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Originally Posted by Felicity
I can't.
I'm eating a banana split!  |
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
<------ Female Characteristic??  |
What's a female characteristic? Eating a banana split? Men don't eat them? LOL! 
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07-16-2007, 12:17 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
The bible never calls God a male. Rather it just uses masculine pronouns, but it also uses a feminine noun for Spirit. Does that make the Holy Spirit a female?
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Is Jesus male or isn't He?
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07-16-2007, 12:20 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Whatevah! 
So, I love mirrors. They bring in and reflect more light. I like that. |
Oh please! Just admit you like checking yourself out in the mirror and be done with it! Reflecting light..............yeah right! 
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07-16-2007, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rico
Is Jesus male or isn't He?
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Its amazing to hear an OP like Prax dance around this one ... when he's familiar with our oneness arguments about the person of Jesus Christ ... and the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Ghost.
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07-16-2007, 12:24 AM
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Not riding the train
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Originally Posted by Rico
Oh please! Just admit you like checking yourself out in the mirror and be done with it! Reflecting light..............yeah right! |
And just think what a waste - I don't even wear makeup!
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07-16-2007, 12:26 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Its amazing to here an OP like Prax dance around this one ... when he's familiar with our oneness arguments about the person of Jesus Christ ... and the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Ghost.
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I can not believe this is even an issue. It seems so absurd. I mean, good grief, who cares whether God has reproductive organs to prove he's male? DUH?!?!?!
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07-16-2007, 12:26 AM
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Not riding the train
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The pronoun means nothing but the church is referred to as a Bride [definitely female] and God as the groom ... you are overthinking this one as always
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I had someone tell us the other day that we weren't the Bride of Christ.
I have no idea after he explained what he meant - what he meant! LOL
I just smiled at him until he ran out of air. 
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