Price, I am sorry for this but my pride and sense of loyalty to a man I greatly respect reqire I point something out.
Here you are effectivly takeing the side of Bishop Tenny. A man you have personally attacked. Speaking of him as though he were neither saved nor even an Apostolic.
I find this quite troubling and therefore must ask, have you changed your opinion of the good Bishop?
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tv1a, I find your disdain and lack of ability to see the truth of scripture disturbing. I mean, suddenly obedience to the scriptures is no longer to be universal. We can pick and choose which scriptures we are believers choose to follow, just so long as we do not consider such beliefs as affecting the salvation of an individual.
[QUOTE]. You have posted another post that would make good fertilizer. Since you are grossly misrepresenting my comments I will clarify my postition again.
Your self righteous opinion has NO BEARING on MY SALVATION. You subjective definition has no bearing on my heavenly destination. I did not one time disagree with scripture. I pointed out your disdain for truth by purposedly misrepresenting scripture... ie. the scripture you quoted in Proverbs about removing old landmarks. [/QUOTE]
HOGWASH!
We are saved by grace through faith. Because of His grace, His favor, we should continue to walk in all the precepts set down in His word, not just the ones we have a conviction on. If the Bible says that something is wrong, then this does not change. Regardless of whether we have a conviction on it or not. Because He saves us by His grace, we should live according to His Word.
[QUOTE]Don't be shock but I agree. Where we differ is you believe a legalistic list of subjective rules are required for salvation. You propose the same false doctrine which Paul effectively debunked when he went stood up to Peter's double standard. [/QUOTE]
And, with respect, I find more substance in a new born believer who is reading the Word than those who would come down and make standards of holiness as found in the Bible optional, "only if you have a conviction about it."
[QUOTE]Holiness is not optional. Man made interpretation of standards you promote are optional. [/QUOTE]
Once again, HOGWASH!
You think this is legalism. It is not. You think that following the Bible is legalism. You would rather see someone's life fly in the wind, and let them go as they feel like. This is Joel Osteen type of theology. To make obedience to the Word optional makes the Word no longer of God but simply an instruction manual that can be cast aside as we see fit.
[QUOTE]You are encouraging the Biblical definition of legalism. Study Paul's encounter with Peter. Study Christ's encounter with the Pharisees. You methodolgies are no different than their methodolgies. At least Peter was man enough to admit he was wrong and changed.[/QUOTE]
Without holiness, no man shall see the Lord. This is not an option. Being holy is not about what one's convictions are, but in obedience to the Word.
Now, you have shown disdain for the scriptures. You make the Word and option, not a commandment. But, when all is said and done, the foundations of the Word are set in stone and no man can say they are optional, or as they have a conviction on.
[QUOTE] How many times must you say I'm saying something I'm not? You are making yourself as God when your say your subjective standards are a requirement for salvation. The Gospel According to Bill is different from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I notice you use the word disdain quite often. If you learned that from your Word for a Day Calendar, you must flip the calendar to another day. There are more two syllable words you can learn.
I do not disdain scripture. Such character assassination will not be tolerated from someone who posts reeks of bovine excrement. In your language that equates to hogwash!!! [/QUOTE]
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
TFT spoke truth in this message. I speak only to what he has said on this message. I stand by what he has said. As I said, I was surprised to hear this spoken, and very relieved. But, this aside, in times past, he has not been as I believe he should have been, and I will continue to speak against such.
TFT spoke truth in this message. I speak only to what he has said on this message. I stand by what he has said. As I said, I was surprised to hear this spoken, and very relieved. But, this aside, in times past, he has not been as I believe he should have been, and I will continue to speak against such.
You should make allowances. Not everybody can be as stable as you have been in what they believe and preach.
tv1a, I was going to come down on you hard. I read what i wrote, and had to repent. if I posted what I wanted to, I would have been as you are now, in the flesh and not in alignment with the ways of the Lord. You clearly refuse to hear the correction of the Word. You choose to welcome the ways of the flesh, and so be it.
I cannot lower myself to be as you are. You have shown your spirit. I wonder, though, if such language would not be a bannable offense, or is it only when an ultra con uses such an attitude?
Bring it on. It would be refreshing to hear you articulate an original thought. A peice of advice. The mroe you attempt to suggest you are the moral compass by which God will judge the nations, the more foolish you appear. I haven't even used my best stuff yet. I have a principle about casting pearls before swine I try to adhere to.
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
tv1a, I was going to come down on you hard. I read what i wrote, and had to repent. if I posted what I wanted to, I would have been as you are now, in the flesh and not in alignment with the ways of the Lord. You clearly refuse to hear the correction of the Word. You choose to welcome the ways of the flesh, and so be it.
I cannot lower myself to be as you are. You have shown your spirit. I wonder, though, if such language would not be a bannable offense, or is it only when an ultra con uses such an attitude?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
Listen to me, because this is so vital to your eternal life.
As believers we are required to be holy in all areas of life. This does include dress, hair, and worldly participation. A little leaven will leaven the whole lump. A little worldliness spreads like a cancer, and can eventually eat away at your whole being.
I should know. As CC1 has so quaintly pointed out, I have been everywhere. I was in a place where I was against standards, and I eventually became so spiritually sick that I could not stand to look at myself in the mirror without hating what I had become.
Please, repent, and return back to holiness in all areas of life. Do not allow your flesh to convince you that standards are personal convictions or social doctrines. Come 100% to Jesus and the ways of righteousness.