Saddened by NY Grand Jury Decision To NOT Indict

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Yea, except they kept on insisting that it would take an immense amount of force applied directly to the front throat to cause any real damage.

And wouldn't a fall with a 6'5" 350lb man with an improper hold of the guys neck with a sudden force impact such as the sudden stop from the fall cause this immense amount of force you are talking about? I think so.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by n david

Do you have proof of how much it was, or are you just making it up?

You are the one that stated the hemorraghes would kill garner. Where's your proof they were the severe kind. I was pointing out that not all hemorraghes are severe enough to cause death and you offered no evidence that garners were severe.

You said : " because with hemoraghing he would have died anyway..." I want proof of this instead of made up arguments. If you hadn't said this I would have never even brought up minor hemorraghes being non life threatening.

[BrotherEastman]

BTW, The video that Prax showed concerning the v-neck choke hold doesn't seem to be that at all. The video of Garners hold was that of the forearm from the cop.

[BrotherEastman]

Every news link I look into shows that the Medical Examiner states that Garner died of a Neck being compressed amongst other factors.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Every news link I look into shows that the Medical Examiner states that Garner died of a Neck being compressed amongst other factors.

And yet garner died of a heart attack

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

And wouldn't a fall with a 6'5" 350lb man with an improper hold of the guys neck with a sudden force impact such as the sudden stop from the fall cause this immense amount of force you are talking about? I think so.

That is a good observation. I think there was enough officers around him when he fell that it wouldn't have been a super hard fall. Probably more of a controlled fall

[n david]

Originally Posted by jfrog

You said : " because with hemoraghing he would have died anyway..." I want proof of this instead of made up arguments. If you hadn't said this I would have never even brought up minor hemorraghes being non life threatening.

You need to finish the quote, not cut it off mid-sentence. "....because of the stress placed on his heart." I wrote it that way for a reason.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by jfrog

And yet garner died of a heart attack

And of course the neck being compressed had nothing to do with the heart attack, yeah you can believe that if you want I guess.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by n david

You need to finish the quote, not cut it off mid-sentence. "....because of the stress placed on his heart." I wrote it that way for a reason.

Then add in the words and answer the question. Where is your proof of that.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

And of course the neck being compressed had nothing to do with the heart attack, yeah you can believe that if you want I guess.

No, it and other factors led to the heart attack. I totally agree.