The poor in America

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

More drama. No If Jesus had used a phone, none of the pople had phones to answer his call.

You have severe and cold rhetoric. It reeks of lack of compassion.

Way to take random words out of context. Is this how you read my posts? Just type in keyword searches Your next PhD should be in Literature.

Yes, I have very harsh rhetoric for Pharisees and those who present a false Gospel, who don't live in my city, yet come in and spit on the name of Jesus with their pious puke. No apologies from me, so thanks for pointing that out.

They are freaks -- meaning, twisted, abnormal, deceived and spreading lies in the name of Jesus! FREAKS! (I said it again, to make it easier for you to cite)

You know nothing of my compassion. An internet forum, anonymity, exchange of ideas and someone who continues to call you a "scheming Leftist," rarely responds to a thing you say except to quote random junk about Obama or Liberals, is not exactly a good proto-type for genuine interpersonal relationships.

[Socialite]

Coadie, you haven't once directly responded to a post I've directed toward you. Not once.

[ReformedDave]

Socialite, forgive me if you've already covered this but in order for the good news of the Gospel to make any sense must not the unconverted see the sinfulness of their sins?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Thanks, both of you.

I changed my thinking about poverty in America in the last few years -- I began reading, studying it more closely, and then decided to actually get involved with it directly. I'm not great urban champion, and there's people that work far harder than I do, but just rubbing shoulders with these guys has been eye-opening. And the regurgitated hatred and bigotry slandered against the poor (that ironically just continues the stigmatization and oppression) is all-too-common. It's amazing how much of it just starts to sound the same. Every argument is sliced up in two quadrants: Work hard, try harder, make better choices and you can be all you can be vs. lazy, hobo, slummy, dirty leeches who want to suck off everyone. The result is a rather worldly metric for bringing redemption to a situation, excuses for not making a difference and extra ideological padding for sitting on the sidelines, and bellicose rhetoric.

I recall worshipping the America Dream, it was my God. If someone had brokenness in their life, I went back to the that idol, and told them they just weren't trying hard enough. My focus was on them making money, and I misunderstood what poverty really was, how deep it was, and difficult an oppression it is to overcome.

This is a dandy example of folks that brag about being uber compassionate and can't express themselves without inflamatory leftist rhetoric.

Real compassionate.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Socialite, forgive me if you've already covered this but in order for the good news of the Gospel to make any sense must not the unconverted see the sinfulness of their sins?

Luke 24:47

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Socialite, forgive me if you've already covered this but in order for the good news of the Gospel to make any sense must not the unconverted see the sinfulness of their sins?

Yes, it most certainly does. Though it's not the Gospel, nor the Story. But certainly part of the story is that we were hopeless sinners. All of us. Not a sign shouting "Fags go to hell" or "You corrupt people better repent or burn." That's not just ineffective, in conversation w/these stone throwers, they don't even believe the Gospel. They are red-faced moralists that come into the "evil city" to set it straight.

The Holy Spirit does a wonderful job convicting us of our disobedience.

They will see their sin when they hear the Good News. But our message is not their sins, and that's most often all you hear out of these self-righteous megaphones.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Yes, it most certainly does. Though it's not the Gospel, nor the Story. But certainly part of the story is that we were hopeless sinners. All of us. Not a sign shouting "Fags go to hell" or "You corrupt people better repent or burn." That's not just ineffective, in conversation w/these stone throwers, they don't even believe the Gospel. They are red-faced moralists that come into the "evil city" to set it straight.

The Holy Spirit does a wonderful job convicting us of our disobedience.

They will see their sin when they hear the Good News. But our message is not their sins, and that's most often all you hear out of these self-righteous megaphones.

why so much drama? You are wasting time building a false carricature.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

This is a dandy example of folks that brag about being uber compassionate and can't express themselves without inflamatory leftist rhetoric.

Real compassionate.

Hey, Dr. Coadie, most of those highlighted words were summations of things YOU'VE said about the poor! DOH! The rest of the highlighted words are attitudes I'm speaking against, maybe not necessarily yours, but I suspect probably so

Your middle names must be Random Tangents, or Red Herring. Which is it?

You can't just highlight random words and then type a pithy comment

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

why so much drama? You are wasting time building a false carricature.

That's pretty darn accurate actually. It's not drama at all.

Drama is you posting April Fool's Day Birther Jokes.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Way to take random words out of context. Is this how you read my posts? Just type in keyword searches Your next PhD should be in Literature.

Yes, I have very harsh rhetoric for Pharisees and those who present a false Gospel, who don't live in my city, yet come in and spit on the name of Jesus with their pious puke. No apologies from me, so thanks for pointing that out.

They are freaks -- meaning, twisted, abnormal, deceived and spreading lies in the name of Jesus! FREAKS! (I said it again, to make it easier for you to cite)

You know nothing of my compassion. An internet forum, anonymity, exchange of ideas and someone who continues to call you a "scheming Leftist," rarely responds to a thing you say except to quote random junk about Obama or Liberals, is not exactly a good proto-type for genuine interpersonal relationships.

Have you ever seen a pious puke or someone spitting on the name of Jesis? Making imaginary dragons to slay again?

You don't speak like compassionate people speak. Your tone is crude.Are you a gubment employee?